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1 | Authorized name vs. Unauthorized? | Matt 16:18 | justme | 52096 | ||
Hello Raven: In The real world of today, names are associated with items, or churches, food products and more. Like when I hear the word Ford, I know what to expect. The same with Dodge, Chevy, KIA, and VW. For me, when I see Assembly of God, Church of Christ, LDS, JV, Southern Baptist, GARB, Consertive Baptist, American Baptist or even Calvary Chapel, I have a pretty good idea what their theology is. I have spent many, many hours learning, and visiting these churches. I am totally incompatable with LDS, and JV. I have many other friends that belong to these other churches. I know what I believe and where I feel most represents my theology, and follows how I think biblically a church should be run. I am glad for these signs and denominations telling me these things. Christ did not start a church persay. Paul started several. Not all were run the same. They all had problems! As long as human beings are in the human body we will have difference of opinions on Baptism, Denominationalisn, which english translation is the best Bible, can I lose my salvation, speaking in tongues, and the list gets bigger and never ending. However, Galations 5:6 ......The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. NIV. So RAVEN if you so choose to ride a donkey to worship, on the ground, facing east, and sing with with a 76 trumbone band, or with no instruments, and if you want to speak in tongues, or rule against tongues, if your church wants only women pastors or men, that is one great thing about living in a free country! I might add I have paid a very high price for this freedom! So Raven, what would you think is best? A church run government, and state? Should we all sav Raven has the total truth lets follow that foul? Just what is it you would like to see/ No denominations? Well I can tell you in Bolivia in September of 1983 if it were not for Southern Baptists many missionaries who depend on private denoations would have gone belly up! They came to the rescue because inflation was 1000 percent a month! There are many mansions, and thank God some of us care about other believers no matter what church they are, except cults. But even then we are to show love! I honestly hope you read this with a tender heart, and an open spirit for the Holy Spirit to touch you in a special way. agape, justme |
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2 | Authorized name vs. Unauthorized? | Matt 16:18 | RAVEN | 52183 | ||
Hello Justme, You wrote,"I know what I believe and where I feel most represents my theology, and follows how I think biblically a church should be run." God through His inspired word,Proverbs 28 26He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, But whoever walks wisely will be delivered. Proverbs 14 12There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. You wrote, "Well I can tell you in Bolivia in September of 1983 if it were not for Southern Baptists many missionaries who depend on private denoations would have gone belly up!" That was a good thing and I am glad they were able to help. You ask would I like it if there were no denominations? You bet I would! Was the Church that Jesus said He would build a denomination. If you say it was then you will blaspheme. You better think this time before you answer. The church that Jesus said He would build was the true church, and its the only true church. It had a pattern to go by and gospel message that was to be preached and that was the death, burial and resurection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The rest of the New Testament after the book of Acts tells Christians to be unified in to ONE FAITH! NOT MULTI-FAITHS! or MULTI-DOCTRINES! Ephesians 4 13till we all come to the UNITY OF THE FAITH and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; Proverbs 4 2For I give you good doctrine: Do not forsake my law. Romans 6 16Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, YET YOU OBEYED FROM THE HEART THAT FORM OF DOCTRINE TO WHICH YOU WERE DELIVERED. 18And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. Romans 16 Avoid Divisive Persons 17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, CONTRARY TO THE DOCTRINE WHICH YOU LEARNED, and AVOID THEM. Galatians 1 Only One Gospel 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7WHICH IS NOT ANOTHER; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. Ephesians 4 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every WIND OF DOCTRINE, by the TRICKERY OF MEN, in the CUNNING CRAFTINESS of DECEITFUL PLOTTING Now after reading these scriptures, which I doubt you did or do, if you want to talk about strong language than lets talk! Would it not have been better for those in Bolivia to hear a sermon like the ones above instead of this watered down stuff you hear in every denominational church all across the world! The bible is clear when it comes to denominations and divisions of the Gospel. Read it! and learn it! Raven |
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3 | Authorized name vs. Unauthorized? | Matt 16:18 | justme | 52231 | ||
Raven: I do not understand why you would doubt I would read every word you took your time to respomd to my note. I am really trying to understand where all the anger at denominations comes from in you. Not that it makes any difference, but I attend a non demominational church. We go to Calvary Chapel. As for me following my own idea of what a church should be, I refute that strongly. I can not defend the beliefs of anyone other than myself, because I take the scripture very litterally, and know the church I am a part is as close to scripture as humanaly possible. Like I have told you before I admire your ability to defend your beliefs. However, please respect the fact I can do the very same. There is one area that I see is a gapping hole in you talk and response to all of in this forum! You have not love, and you have gained nothing! May I suggest you read 1 Corinthians the entire 13 th chapter. I would like to tell you that there are no Lone Ranger Christians. I would like for you to tell me which church today is the model that best represents the way Christ would have it. I don't know of a single passage that says Christ started a church in any place. The church is the bride of Christ, which is every believer You take verses out of contex and apply them anywhere you think it fits your ideas. What you do is ignorant, and makes you appear to be so brainwashed that you are un reachable and unteachable! I hope this is not the case but more and more it appears it is. I can see why Hank threw in the towel. I am very close to doing the same. So if you want to continue a dialogue with me the harsh rudness has got to stop from you! I challenge your statement that all denominational across the world preaches watered down stuff! Have you been in a lot of churches across our nation? I just can't imagine you attending any other church but the same kind you are a part of. Yet you say the Church of Christ is not a denomination? They are all alike so doesn't that prove there is some kind of connection? That sure sounds like a denomination to me! Raven, if it's black like a Raven, and squawks like a Raven, and has feet like a Raven, and walks like a Raven, it's darn sure it's not a duck! You asked for strong talk, and that's what you got, with respect and agape, I would expect the same from you. I see you trying to cause divisions rather than gather other Christians. Your are indeed SO CLOSED MINDED and ARROGANT that you refuse to even consider that there ARE OTHER Brothers and Sisters in the Family of God whom ARE just as pure in their Biblically based beliefs, as you think you are! I will repeat you last words to me. Read it! And learn it! I will add I hope the is still some hope in reaching such and angry hearted person. agape, justme |
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