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NASB | Matthew 16:18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 16:18 "And I say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades (death) will not overpower it [by preventing the resurrection of the Christ]. [Eph 1:22; 4:15; 5:23; Col 1:18] |
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Bible Note: Raven: I do not understand why you would doubt I would read every word you took your time to respomd to my note. I am really trying to understand where all the anger at denominations comes from in you. Not that it makes any difference, but I attend a non demominational church. We go to Calvary Chapel. As for me following my own idea of what a church should be, I refute that strongly. I can not defend the beliefs of anyone other than myself, because I take the scripture very litterally, and know the church I am a part is as close to scripture as humanaly possible. Like I have told you before I admire your ability to defend your beliefs. However, please respect the fact I can do the very same. There is one area that I see is a gapping hole in you talk and response to all of in this forum! You have not love, and you have gained nothing! May I suggest you read 1 Corinthians the entire 13 th chapter. I would like to tell you that there are no Lone Ranger Christians. I would like for you to tell me which church today is the model that best represents the way Christ would have it. I don't know of a single passage that says Christ started a church in any place. The church is the bride of Christ, which is every believer You take verses out of contex and apply them anywhere you think it fits your ideas. What you do is ignorant, and makes you appear to be so brainwashed that you are un reachable and unteachable! I hope this is not the case but more and more it appears it is. I can see why Hank threw in the towel. I am very close to doing the same. So if you want to continue a dialogue with me the harsh rudness has got to stop from you! I challenge your statement that all denominational across the world preaches watered down stuff! Have you been in a lot of churches across our nation? I just can't imagine you attending any other church but the same kind you are a part of. Yet you say the Church of Christ is not a denomination? They are all alike so doesn't that prove there is some kind of connection? That sure sounds like a denomination to me! Raven, if it's black like a Raven, and squawks like a Raven, and has feet like a Raven, and walks like a Raven, it's darn sure it's not a duck! You asked for strong talk, and that's what you got, with respect and agape, I would expect the same from you. I see you trying to cause divisions rather than gather other Christians. Your are indeed SO CLOSED MINDED and ARROGANT that you refuse to even consider that there ARE OTHER Brothers and Sisters in the Family of God whom ARE just as pure in their Biblically based beliefs, as you think you are! I will repeat you last words to me. Read it! And learn it! I will add I hope the is still some hope in reaching such and angry hearted person. agape, justme |