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1 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Asis | 82386 | ||
I was asking if ". . . when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, . . ." happens today. I know and agree that God has written all He wants to. We (all who believe) now have God, the Holy Spirit within us to speak into our lives. He doesn't have to write any more. The question is does God speak through men today. Do you preach or your Pastor preach the Word of God and is it accepted as the Word of God not the pastor's words (this includes all he says in his message, the scripture and the explanation and application). More susinctly is God still talking through us by the power of the Holy Spirit? | ||||||
2 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Morant61 | 82391 | ||
Greetings Jeff! May I touch upon this question? As a pastor, I can tell you how I approach this question. Scripture is closed. There is no more 'new - in the sense of added' revelation. God does still speak and inspire individuals. He may inspire me to preach on a particular passage, knowing that it will speak to the need of a particular person, at a particular time. He may even give me the rights words to say. However, what I preach is not inspired in the sames sense or to the same degree as something that the authors of the Bible wrote. Their words were infalliable, mine are not. So, to the extent that I remain faithful to God's written Word, I am preaching the Word of God. However, it is possible that I can stray from God's Word either by neglect, intent, or lack of understanding. If, or when, this occurs, I am no longer preaching God's Word. Further, nothing that I say or believe, can ever replace anything in Scripture. Scripture is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. So, yes, I do believe that the Holy Spirit still teaches, speaks, and guides believers today. However, Scripture alone is the final authority on all matters of faith and practice. So, if someone comes to me and says that the Holy Spirit told him that he should kill his children, I can say with absolute certainty and authority that he is wrong. God gave us His Word for several reasons, but one of them is that we might have an objective standard by which to judge doctrine and actions. If we did not have Scripture, anyone could claim that God told them anything that they wanted to claim. Who could argue? Who could say otherwise? But, with Scripture, we have an objective measuring stick by which all faith and practice can be judged. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Asis | 82408 | ||
Good morning Tim I hope this day is as pleasant where you are as it is here. You said, "However, what I preach is not inspired in the sames sense or to the same degree as something that the authors of the Bible wrote. Their words were infalliable, mine are not." If you are speaking as you said, "an inspired message," is not the same Holy Spirit speaking to your congregation that spoke through the writers? Scripture says, "all scripture is inspired", now I'm not saying that what you preach is scripture (take this the right way). However, is not just as inspired as the writers, when you preach under the unction of the Holy Spirit. God has given us all the instruction He choses until the return of our Lord. The Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit could not go against God's word any more than God could or Jesus could. God is no respecter of persons, so are the writers more inspired than us, when we are speaking under the power of the Holy Spirit? Paul said over and over that he came not in his power but by the power of God (the Holy Spirit). Haven't we received the same Spirit, the Spirit with the power that raised Christ from the dead. Doesn't He reside in us. If so for what purpose? To use us to continue the work of Jesus on the earth or to keep us company when we pray. Isn't He the way Jesus abides in us? Aren't there times when your preaching is so powerful that the only explaination is, it must have been the Holy Spirit talking through you. No way could I, we, ever have had that effect on the people. I think that God gave us His word so we would be able to tell when He is speaking to us and through us. It is not the ultimate. Jesus is. My sheep will know my voice. When I know He has spoken to me It will be by the fruit that others will know that I have been with Jesus. I KNOW. At least I'm getting better at recognizing His voice. And sometimes I might think it was Him and it was really my soul talking and I will make an error then the Holy Spirit will convict and I will repent and I will make right what was spoken. I will learn the difference in the voices. but when He speaks to me I know it is Him. Look at hoe the Lord taught the disciples. has he changed His method? I digress. We cannot separate God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God's written word. The are kinda like the checks and balanaces we have in our government. Only these are working to the same end. They NEVER contradict one another. By the way do you study the Greek? In Christ Jeff |
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4 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Morant61 | 82424 | ||
Greetings Jeff! Thanks for the response my friend! It is rather rainy here today! :-) Allow me to clarify my position just a bit. I do believe that the Holy Spirit speaks, and of course He is the same Holy Spirit. The difference to me is one of degree. The Holy Spirit moved the writters of Scripture to record a unique, new, and infalliable revelation. When I preach, yes the Holy Spirit moves (depending upon whom you ask of course :-) )! However, He is not giving me a new and unique revelation. He is helping me to understand, explain, and apply Scripture. But, He is not adding new Scripture. We may be saying the same thing with slightly different words. But, there are many who believe that Scripture is not the absolute authority in faith and practice, and that God will still give people today a 'new' revelation which can 'replace' or 'add to' the Bible. This is the position with which I disagree. Finally, yes I do study Greek. I have been for about 16 years now. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Asis | 82446 | ||
We are saying the same thing. I beleive that it is God speaking through you when you preach under the unction of the Holy Spirit. Not you but Him. You have given over your "self" died to self and only He remains. His power and might. All youv'e done is open your mouth (and done alot of studying). You said "But, there are many who believe that Scripture is not the absolute authority in faith and practice, and that God will still give people today a 'new' revelation which can 'replace' or 'add to' the Bible." Isn't what they are really saying is "here is a new interprtation of scripture, an addition to what man has said it means before". Not new scripture, "Add this to the Book God Has Spoken." Who's saying that? Are you saying that God has not revealed a meaning of His word to you, personally. He has never opened up a scripture to you that has been confirmed by two or three witnesses? This is not a new scripture nor does it replace scripture but new Light like Luther got. He wasn't an apostle of old and God gave him (my words) revelation about "saved by faith." It became the crux of what we beleive. Now I'm not asking if God has revealed to you something as great as he did Luther, but all is the same in His eyes. Hasn't He opened scripture to you so you are the one writing the commentary using the words He gave you. Isn't that preaching. Aren't we actually expounding on our expiriences with Jesus as He renews our minds and perfects us into His image by being in Christ. I guess I'm not understanding. Only that which has been expounded on in the past is correct and only that which can be seen with the eye is to be relyed on? This is not my expirience. sun shining 60 degrees here. In Christ Jeff |
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6 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Morant61 | 82447 | ||
Greetings Jeff! No! I've actually spoken with those who believe in absolutely new revelation, in addition to and in some cases actually replacing Scripture. I have also spoken to those who believe that something 'revealed' to them has the same authority as Scripture, even if it directly contradicts Scripture. Concerning enlightenment, yes I have experienced times where God opened my eyes and helped me to understand a passage better. But, notice that Luther wasn't taught something 'new', he just finally believed something which was there all the time. :-) Rainy and 57 here! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Asis | 82451 | ||
Pray for them. They will face Judgement. All that God reveals is there we just have not gotten to a place where we can see it. YOU sure type fast. In CHjReIfSfT |
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8 | Does that happen today | Matt 12:34 | Morant61 | 82454 | ||
About 100 wpm! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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