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1 | Where's the LOVE | Matt 12:34 | Asis | 82167 | ||
Greetings Tim We come into this forum either as a seeker (one desiring to understand the things of God, but still part of the world, an unbeliever) or as a believer (One who believes God, believes Romans 10:8,9,10, or if you prefer, one who has said "The Sinners Prayer"). When you believe you are changed (2 Cor 5:17,18a, Romans 3:21,22, Romans 8:15-18, and many others). The seeker is looking for a new way but does not know the way. The believer has found it. They come to the forum to receive Godly knowledge, Godly understanding, and Godly wisdom. If you are concerned that new believers do not dig deep into the Word of God your concern is correct. It our job to make disciples not believers. We were all believers at one time. God changed us into disciples. Our commitment to God surpassed our commitment to all else. We chose and He responded. As we progressed in our discipleship a time came where we duplicated ourselves. The Forum is a place where we can duplicate ourselves. We must teach those we teach to be like the Bereans. Take it to the Scriptures. Read the Scriptures. But we should not become so entrenched in the literal that we have fail to take Paul’s warning. 2 Cor. 3:6 (KJV) 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. God gave us a picture of how He works in Exodus. The pillar of fire and the pillar of smoke lead the people to where God wanted them. The pillar may not have moved for months but one day it would start and we either followed and went to a new place or stayed where we were comfortable and familiar with the terrain. Example: The church preaches that you get to heaven by paying for it. Buying ones loved ones out of purgatory and into heaven is church doctrine. Then comes Martin Luther. How many of the preachers of the day defended the faith against this doctrine of saved by faith. They had the same Word as Luther yet they did not see what He saw. The pillar of fire had moved but they had not moved with it. We do the same thing. Are we teaching that we know everything that the Bible says and understand everything that there are no mysteries left to be revealed. Do we teach how to rightly divide the word. Are we responsible for guarding the body of Christ from outside or erring influences. Are we not to be imitators of Paul who had judizers following Him everywhere he went teaching false doctrine. Does He attach them in any of His letters outright or does he teach the body in the truth. Isn’t God capable of brining us out of error. It is our job to be “ASIS DEFENDER OF THE FAITH”, or is our job “DISCIPLEMAKER TEACHER OF THE FAITH.” Point 2) is that God stuff can only be discerned by the spirit. When I was conformed to the world, I used my mind to reason what God was doing. I was never right. I finally had to let go and let God. I do not battle against the world’s wisdom. That battle belongs to the LORD. When I believe God, I have turned away, repented, from the world view and turned to the God view. If I am converted (new heart) and have not just made a decision (and many who become converted start out with just a decision) I am after the God stuff not the man stuff. The man stuff never seems to satisfy any more. The God stuff is in the Bible. The Spirit leads me to spend time in the word. Learn the word, the will of God. As I put the word in God renews my mind. He uses His word as a two-edged sword cutting asunder the division between soul (mind will and emotions) and the spirit (that part of me that was born again). I begin to think like Him. His will and my will become the same. My mind thinks thoughts that are His word. It is my spirit that begins to lead my life. Before it was my flesh, my mind, will, emotions and body. Through the renewing of my mind I am lead by my spirit which is lead by the Spirit of God. It is through God’s Spirit that I can have the mind of Christ. 1 Cor. 2:12-16 |
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2 | Where's the LOVE | Matt 12:34 | Morant61 | 82172 | ||
Greetings Asis! Thanks for the response my friend! You wrote: "Are we not to be imitators of Paul who had judizers following Him everywhere he went teaching false doctrine. Does He attach them in any of His letters outright or does he teach the body in the truth." I don't know, how would you read the following passages? Phil. 3:1 - "Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. 2 Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh." Gal. 2:4 - "This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5 We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might remain with you." Gal. 2:11 - "When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12 Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray." Notice that the false teachings are dealt with in strong terms, and that in the latter passages, those in error were mentioned by name. So, I would say that the answer to your question is 'both'! You also wrote: " It is our job to be ?ASIS DEFENDER OF THE FAITH?, or is our job ?DISCIPLEMAKER TEACHER OF THE FAITH.?" Again, the answer is both. Consider the following: Titus 1:13 - "This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth." Jude 3 - "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord." In fact, the passage I quoted earlier quite clealy spells out that Scripture is to be used for the positive teaching of truth and the correct of error. It is to be used for training people how to live and rebuking those who are living in violation of Scripture. 2 Tim. 3:16 - "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Part of making a disciple include dealing with false doctrine. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Where's the LOVE | Matt 12:34 | Radioman2 | 82183 | ||
"Beware of dogs!" These are strong terms indeed. The King James Version says it this way: Philippians 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. |
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