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1 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Makarios | 95344 | ||
Greetings MsWings4Him, In Exodus 33:18, Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!" But God warned Moses, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!" (33:20) So the Lord said to Moses, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock; and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen." We know from other passages that God is spirit and He is formless (Isaiah 31:3; John 4:24), and no one can see God and live (1 Tim. 6:16; John 1:18; 6:46; 1 Tim. 1:17; 1 John 4:12). So, are we to take Moses at his word? Of course! :) Just as the word "hand" (v.23) is an anthropomorphism (*), so the word "back" is an anthropomorphism. And what does the word "back" indicate? The Hebrew word 'achor' could be taken to mean "hereafter." Therefore, Moses did not see the glory of God directly, but once it had gone past him, God did allow him to view the results, or the afterglow, that His presence had produced. As we can see, Moses had an intimate relationship with his Creator, so much so that it could said that "the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face" (33:11); that Moses interacted with God on a personal and intimate basis. The word 'face' in verse 11 when used of God is an arthropomorphism (*). God granted Moses' request for a vision of Him in Exodus 33. But Moses' prayer would not be fully answered until the Mount of Transfiguration, which happened centuries later (Luke 9:32). (*) "anthropomorphism- n., the attributing of human shape or characteristics to a god, animal, or inanimate thing" (1) Blessings to you, Makarios (1) Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th Ed., pg. 60, 2000, IDG Books Worldwide, Inc. |
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2 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Ray | 95427 | ||
Hi Makarios, If we have any differences on this topic it will revolve around the differences between the NKJ and the NASB for 1 Corinthians 15:45-49. 1) Would you give us a better example of God's "formlessness" than Isaiah 31:3? 2) Do we not all find it hard to pray, talk to, a formless spirit? From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Makarios | 95530 | ||
Greetings Ray, I apologize, my old friend.. I hope you did not find offense with "anthropomorphism." I did not intend to "slight" God in any way at all, and I hope that you know that. I love the Lord with all my heart, and as I keep growing in the Spirit, then the things of flesh become so much less important to me.. I see things differently and in a way that is entirely different, my friend. I no longer "want" material things, and sometimes I prefer a day of healthy Bible reading over that of food. So forgive me if I "overstepped" my bounds a bit, but I took no heed at all of what source I used.. (Webster's Dictionary) Ok.. Now on to the topic.. As you know, I love the NASB and the NKJV. One of the special features that they both share is capitalization of the nouns whenever Deity is being referred to in Scripture. For me, the NASB and NKJV are the two "titans" from the two 'opposite' ends of the Greek "textual families"; the NASB representing the best word-for-word translation based on the Alexandrian Textual Family, and the NKJV representing the newest and most accurate translation based on the Byzantine Family (including the Textus Receptus). But I love them both, and they are both important in Bible Study. One who prefers the Alexandrian text over the Byzantine would say, "I have a Bible that was translated based on manuscript evidence that stretches all the way back to the 2nd century." One who prefers the Byzantine text over the Alexandrian would say, "I have a Bible that is fuller, richer, and sounds more like the Word of God. Also, you can't prove that there were not any Byzantine manuscripts before the 4th century, even though none have been found." :-) I say, "It doesn't matter. I wish and hope that there will always be translations from both textual families, since the great accuracy of each translation, when compared one to another, further proves God's divine Sovereignty for me." And I say this while choosing the Alexandrian lean over the Byzantine lean for my primary usage. Now, with that said, I have to write another post because I'm running out of room! :-) But it is good to talk to you once again, Ray, after my long absence. Makarios |
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