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1 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | MsWings4Him | 95343 | ||
Please explain, why in Exodus 33:11 it states that Moses spoke with God face to face, as a friend and then in Exodus 33:21-22 it states no one can see God's face and live? | ||||||
2 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Makarios | 95344 | ||
Greetings MsWings4Him, In Exodus 33:18, Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!" But God warned Moses, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!" (33:20) So the Lord said to Moses, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock; and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen." We know from other passages that God is spirit and He is formless (Isaiah 31:3; John 4:24), and no one can see God and live (1 Tim. 6:16; John 1:18; 6:46; 1 Tim. 1:17; 1 John 4:12). So, are we to take Moses at his word? Of course! :) Just as the word "hand" (v.23) is an anthropomorphism (*), so the word "back" is an anthropomorphism. And what does the word "back" indicate? The Hebrew word 'achor' could be taken to mean "hereafter." Therefore, Moses did not see the glory of God directly, but once it had gone past him, God did allow him to view the results, or the afterglow, that His presence had produced. As we can see, Moses had an intimate relationship with his Creator, so much so that it could said that "the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face" (33:11); that Moses interacted with God on a personal and intimate basis. The word 'face' in verse 11 when used of God is an arthropomorphism (*). God granted Moses' request for a vision of Him in Exodus 33. But Moses' prayer would not be fully answered until the Mount of Transfiguration, which happened centuries later (Luke 9:32). (*) "anthropomorphism- n., the attributing of human shape or characteristics to a god, animal, or inanimate thing" (1) Blessings to you, Makarios (1) Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th Ed., pg. 60, 2000, IDG Books Worldwide, Inc. |
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3 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Ray | 95361 | ||
Hi Makarios, I don't see that your Webster's meaning for "anthropomorphism" applies to our God. For God is not "a god, animal, or inanimate thing". Exodus 33:18, "Then Moses said, "I pray Thee, show me (Thy) glory!" John 1:16, "For of (His) fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." I would say that in Jesus we have seen His glory. John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld **His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:18, "No man has seen **God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him." John 6:46, "Not that any man has seen the (Father), except the One who is from God; **He has seen the Father." John 10:30, "**I and the Father are one." Mark 4:41, "Who then is this **[One], that even the wind and the sea obey Him?" Hebrews 12:14, "Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the **Lord. See to it that one one comes short of the grace of God;..." 1 Corinthians 15:38, "But God gives it a body just as **He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own. All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another....45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul" The last Adam [became] a life-giving spirit." 1 Corinthians 15:50, "Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of (God); nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable." Exodus 33:23, "Then (I) will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but **My face shall not be seen." From the heart, Ray |
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4 | Exodus 33:11 vs. Ex. 33:1-22? | Ex 33:23 | Makarios | 95365 | ||
Greetings Ray, You can say whatever you please regarding "anthropomorphism", since that particular word IS NOT the focus of this Forum. However, the meaning of the word does so happen to be what I have stated it to be, as quoted out of Webster's dictionary. I could have used a different dictionary if you so prefer. As for Jesus, Yes! The Father's glory would be revealed to all in His Son! But you do realize that you are now adding a meaning to this thread that was not originally asked about or intended, and now your post is focused on a completely different subject than the original author of the question had intended. Makarios |
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