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1 | Who is Israel? | Ex 23:25 | yayatheresa | 146791 | ||
What scripture do you give to support your stand here and in your response to me? If I am counted in the sight of God as Israel, or as scripture refers to me often, the seed of Abraham, then I can count this blessing as mine. I also have to meet the same condition that is given. I have to serve the Lord God. Your response to Mitch on this seemed convoluted to me. He in no way indicated that to receive the blessing you would not have to also meet the condition. The post by Moran61 said this Gal 3:29 is only about Jesus the seed . It doesn’t say that at all. It says if we be Christ’s (belong to Christ) then we are Abraham’s seed. And because we are Abraham’s seed we are HEIRS. You admit it says we are the children of promise but again I emphasize it doesn’t stop at that it says we are also heirs. I would like to know more about unconditional promises. The only thing I can think of right now is God’s love is unconditional and I also guess we can count God’s promise not to destroy the earth with water again. I am not disputing you on this but I would like scripture for your statement that I can learn from. I will also need you to tell me with scripture where the blessings of the Old Covenant stopped being in effect. Or if you consider any of it pertinent to us today what part? Lastly this may have to be my last post. I am one of those many would call “name it and claim it” “blab it and grab it” I highly esteem the teaching and ministries of Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, and other ministries of this type. Do you consider their doctrine false and unorthodox Christianity? They teach what I am saying here and what Mitch seems to have been trying to say. If so I will obey the rules of the site moderators and leave in love. But you will not have a well balanced forum. :) Here are some of the scripture I stand on that tell me I am Abraham’s seed and heir of the blessings: Rom 2:28-29 “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God” Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, Rom 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children but, In Isaac shall they seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Gal 3:26-29 For ye are the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bon nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Theresa |
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2 | Who is Israel? | Ex 23:25 | EdB | 146833 | ||
Theresa Actually we have a well balance forum we just don't tolerate false teaching very well. The scripture I stand on is the whole Bible rightly divided and read and understood using commonly accept rules of language. If God is talking to specific group of people about something he is going to do at a particular time. And then 2000 years later we say we are children of promise (that promise being we would be saved my the Messiah Jesus Christ) we can't tangle language enough to say this is talking about all the promises God ever made to Israel. Or should we all start packing to move there? I'm sorry for you to be tied up with the men you mentioned. If you would do some research you will find they all dabble in the metaphysical and their ministries have been declared falsehoods by the people charged with making those decisions. I would ask you to do some reading. Perhaps you would start reading Hank Hanegraaffs Christianity in Crisis. EdB |
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3 | Who is Israel? | Ex 23:25 | mitchbornagain | 146857 | ||
Actually you do not have a 'well balanced forum' You have bascially told me that If I do not change my views, to line up with you, you do not want me on this site. So I'll leave an email address of mitchbornagain@yahoo.com for anyone who wants to discuss the Word with me, feel free to email me anytime, and we can discuss whatever you want. But I will no longer post here, because I've been threatened that if I don't submit to those who follow the lies of the devil, and stand up and say God might heal you, but God might also give you cancer, or AIDS. I will never compromise the Word of God, so I will never agree with you. I can say though since you do not want me here, you would not want Jesus Christ here either, nor Paul, nor actually, any teacher from the early Church. I leave you all in love, I do not mean to sound arrogant or harsh, I'll keep you in my prayers, may God Almighty give you a revelation of the Word which you desperatly need in your lives. God Bless, Mitch |
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4 | Who is Israel? | Ex 23:25 | mitchbornagain | 146860 | ||
And yes, I am a name it claim it kind of man myself. So was Jesus. Kenneth Copeland is a mighty man of God, who does a wonderfl job for the body of Christ. I've yet to ever hear him utter a bad word about anyone else, yet, bad words are uttered about him, on this very website... might want to think on that.. we can judge someone by their fruits can't we... God Bless Mitch |
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5 | Who is Israel? | Ex 23:25 | Searcher56 | 146867 | ||
Mitch - all your posts have been on ... name it claim it healing ... and similar things The reason this forum is well balanced is - We don't focus on one or two areas - We allow many views and use Scripture to show what we believe. The forum has set some boundries, which we live with. - We challange each other, but do not attack the person. One may be uncomfortable with what is present, but we attempt to present it so, to grow. Searcher |
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