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1 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | 2fedex | 155061 | ||
Swerv, the "teaching" of Hell as an eternal place of torment is in no fashion or form simply a tradition going back to Roman Catholicism, it is a very plainly, clearly and passionately expounded reality of scripture. We are told more in Holy Scrpiture of the conditions in Hell than we are even given of the realities of Heaven. Please use your concordance and look up the terms Hell, outer darkness, weeping, gnashing of teething, eternal torment,Sheol and others and study very carefully both Old and New Testament teachings along with all cross references listed in this study of yours. After doing this I have no option or conclusion other than a place of eternal damnation and torment for the unregenerate. I will leave your understanding of regeneration totally alone in this matter. I do believe that it is possible to vary on that issue with proof texts on both sides. However Hell is not possible to find another view from scripture other than the traditional orthodox view that is held all through evangelical and Roman Catholic theology. I know that God has no intention of man getting this one wrong or it would not have been so clearly reavealed in scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit. I hate to even consider where the teaching of a view opposing eternal everlasting torment came from. please investigate this matter thouroughly before you dismiss my posting as just a personal or religious group attack, it is truly out of the love of Christ that I beseech you brother. fedexguy | ||||||
2 | Why two tablets ??? | Is 33:22 | swerv | 155080 | ||
Dear fedexguy: Thanks for the response ! I think you will agree that unless we challenge ourselves to prove all things - we may fall prey to false doctrines. I am not saying I do not believe there is hell as far as punishment. Of course the scriptures are clear. But what I whole heartedly disagree is the teaching of eternal hell of torment and hell being an eternal place for the wicked, ungodly and unrighteous. I believe hell is the punishment by fire. It is the perishing of the soul. But eternal it is definetely not. Math. 3:12 - unquenchable fire - it cannot be put out but it will go out when the fire has burned everything up. Jer. 17:27 and 2 Chronicles 36:19,21 - talk about Jerusalems punishment - the fire will not be quenched. - My point here is that Jerusalem is still not burning now. So the fire did go out. Similarily, the hell fire destruction of the wicked will go out once everything is burned up. The destruction is eternal since the souls will being eternally destoyed. The wicked will never ever become living souls as Gen.2:7 says. Hell: Rom. 6:23 and Johm 3:16 both talk about death and perish as a result of sin. Does God give an immortal soul to a sinner so he -she can spend the rest of eternity in torment. Well lets see: Psalm 37:10,20 - the wicked shall not be ...the wicked shall perish ...into smoke shall they consume away. --- seems like perishing to me or no more existence adter punishment by death. Malachi 4:1,3 - the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven .. and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up...and ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet. ---- sounds like perishing to me ! Rev. 20:9 - fire cam down from heaven and devoured them. 2 Peter 3:10 - the earth and all the works that are therein shall be burned up. ** again - burned up and devoured sounds like destruction - not immortality. Ezekiel 18:4 - the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Man is mortal and God is immortal. 1 Tim. 6:15-16 - only God has immortality. The righteous dead and living will be given immortality when Jesus returns. There is no soul that goes to heaven or hell upon death. John 11:11 - says Lazarus sleepeth - Lazurus is dead. Acts 2:34 - David is not yet ascended into the heavens. Heb. 11:32-40 - says tyhe faithful of the ages will be rewarded together becuase they have not yet been rewarded. Math.27:52 - saints which slept arose. Ecc. 9:5,6,10 - the dead know not anything - why because they sleep in the grave until the resurection. Psalm 115:17 - the dead praise not the Lord Psalm 146:4 - his thoughts perish Gen.2:7 - when God gave adam the breadth of life or Gods spirit - he became a living soul. Without the breadth of life there is no soul to exist. Only God can give that back like He did to Lazarus. Ecc.12:7 - explains how upon death the spirit or breath of life returns to God who gave it !! So Doc - I believe scipture clearly teaches that the soul can die, we do not have an immortal soul upon death and there is not eternal hell but rather we are destroyed forever if we are found to be unrighteous. 1 Cor. 15:51-53 - absolutley says that at the time of resurection the righteous will recieve immortality. Let me know, Swerv |
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