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1 | The Real stature of Satan | Is 14:16 | following him | 126965 | ||
I cannot agree with the interpretation that this verse is refering to Jesus Christ. In this case it is clear that the followings verses in this chapter should be taken along with verse 12 because there is no break indicating that the focus of the verse has changed from the "Star of the morning". So verses 13-17 should be considered when trying to pinpoint who the "Star of the morning" is refering to in this case. And all of this is showing a negative view of the person being discussed. Was the Messiah ever discussed in the scriptures in anything other than a positve light? Is 14:13 "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. Is 14:14 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;I will make myself like the Most High.' Is 14:15 "Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol,To the recesses of the pit. Is 14:16 "Those who see you will gaze at you, They will ponder over you, saying, 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Is 14:17 Who made the world like a wilderness And overthrew its cities, Who did not allow his prisoners to go home?' Although up until now I have always considered these scriptures to be refering to Satan but after viewing the discussion in another thread about this verse, I may have to revised my opinion. I will, when I get more time, have to look deeper into this matter. Blessings to you |
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2 | The Real stature of Satan | Is 14:16 | Stultis the Fool | 126991 | ||
I certainly understand your explanation. However, I would like to point out that, in the event this is prophecy, the verses need not follow a "break," to change meaning from scripture at hand to prophecy. I believe that in every capacity this passage describes, as Isaiah intended, the King of Babylon. However, I get the impression that similar to other instances of Christ Prophecy in the Old Testament, the prophecy is incripted into the literal intent of the passage. Consider the example in Malachi 2:5 and 2:6. "My covenant with him was one of life and peace, and I gave them to him as an object of reverence; so he revered Me and stood in awe of My name. True instruction was in his mouth and unrighteousness was not found on his lips; he walked with Me in peace and uprightness, and he turned many back from iniquity." By context this passage is describing "Levi," but by implication is most certainly prophecy of the Christ. I suppose my point is this: a passage or particular verse need not be isolated in topic to be prophetic. Frequently it seems, the passage is written about something entirely unrelated. Just look to the Psalms. Anyway, I appreciate your time and thoughtfulness. Any idea why this thread is restricted. |
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3 | The Real stature of Satan | Is 14:16 | following him | 127035 | ||
I agree there are examples where no break is apearent when a writer may include messianic prophecies. However in this particular case I believe that the entire section of scripture I mentioned should be used to determine who is being spoken about. Even if you take verse 12 alone there is still a negative implication derived from the entire prophecy toward the king of Babylon that you cannot seperate from verse 12. So this would put the Messiah in a negative light if it truely refered to Him. As far as why this thread was restricted? I dont know. | ||||||
4 | What is this negative connotation? | Is 14:16 | Stultis the Fool | 127040 | ||
What is this negative connotation? | ||||||
5 | What is this negative connotation? | Is 14:16 | pmoosiemo | 127069 | ||
where did you hear that? |
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