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1 | Where ARE the four corners of the earth? | Is 11:12 | Taleb | 105674 | ||
Makarios, I have many (too many, actually) “study Bibles” on my shelves. While they are somewhat valuable, they are NOT inspired. What I honestly enjoy is discovering where “outside sources” discover what the inspired Word declares. I've discovered the vast majority of the time every scientific "theory" that acutally becomes a “proven discovery” can be BACKED up with Scripture. And I acknowledge, before every scientific discovery, Scripture was as true BEFORE it was ever written, as it is today. Never has there been any "authentic" discovery that DISPROVES any Scripture. Agreed? Job’s (which is the oldest writings in the Bible) “Balancing of the clouds” isn’t merely figurative speech. In my lifetime (which, by the way, is a very lonnnnng time) it was discovered Job 37:16’s talk about the “balance of the clouds” was precise. Thunderclouds shoot negative charges down to the earth AND they shoot the “same sized” positive charges up to the heavens. Gen. 1:20 "Let the waters teem with shoals of living creatures" ... everyone used to think this was all the fish. Since the microscope we KNOW waters do teem with shoals of living creatures - one drop at a peek. The "laws of gravity and inerta" are revealed in Job 38:33. This was before any apple fell on what's his name. :) It also isn’t figuratively written in Job 26:13 about the “heavens being garnished”. Unseen with the naked eye, but seen with powerful telescopes IS a “garnished-with-brilliant-colored-heaven”. Eccl. 1:6 telling about the circulation of the invisible atmosphere was already true long before officially proven scientifically. Gen. 3:15 talks about the “seed of WOMAN”; Heb. 7:9-10 talk about the “seed of MAN”. It wasn’t long ago that science “discovered” BOTH seeds are necessary for being fruitful and multiplying. But rather than discussing the multitudes of discoveries that science has made backing up Scripture let me stick to YOUR topic. The official discovery of physical “pillars” happen to enhance Scripture. Thanks for providing the Scripture verses were God tells us about what has been discovered. How do YOU picture “pillars”? Please don’t say tall, skinny posts. :) The “earth’s foundation” WAS discovered. Mantle rock under the oceans is only 2 miles thick in places BUT under the “earth” (remember God separated the earth from the oceans) it is estimated to be 300 miles. There are seven continents. Each one has its own “foundation socket” or pillar. This is not a play on words. For how many centuries did “believers” think these “unproven” verses were only to be taken figuratively? The study-Bible’s statement: “The phrase does not teach a particular theory of the structure of the universe” is almost right. Blessings upon you, too Taleb |
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2 | Where ARE the four corners of the earth? | Is 11:12 | tomsweetstir | 105760 | ||
Hello Taleb, I too have read such writings as you mentioned about the four corners of the earth. I wish I could locate them. I recall they could help answer some of Makarios” legitimate questions. Others, who have studied the earth’s characteristics, answered many of my inital questions and doubts. I'm sure you will agree, the globe models we have today do an injustice to the earth's occupants. Look at the average world map and you would think that Greenland is one of the world's largest countries. In reality, China is almost five times the size of Greenland. And the real equator is NOT two thirds down. What do people do with "discoveries" that aren't found in scripture? To try to discredit scientific discoveries such as the four, not three, or twelve corners of the earth, because it doesn’t make sense to them, doesn’t make any sense to me. I recall reading about Galileo’s discovery that he made a few centuries ago, that the earth rotated around the sun, not the other way around as previously thought by “the church”, brought him grief too. He did it without the equipment that Hopkins, the Navy and scientist use. And, as I recall, they, like so many other discoveries, weren't searching to see if this not so round globe had any angles on it. Anyways, Taleb, thank you, and chin up, sir. Tom |
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3 | Where ARE the four corners of the earth? | Is 11:12 | Taleb | 105958 | ||
Tom, it was an interesting point you inserted about the shapes of the countries on our world maps. And, you were also correct in your assessment about how “the church” attempted to hinder discoveries. As the world can still note - on this forum, “the church” still does. My daughter was born around the time man landed on the moon. I recall the "church's" outrage, prior to that landing, attempting to travel into space proves the end was near. They cried, "God will never allow man to go beyond the earth’s atmosphere." How many trips have we made? And I also recall what the world heard from those brave scientists doing what God intended man to do - learn. "In the beginning God ..." Genesis 1 was broadcast around this globe. Interestingly, the church changed their tune when the news came back that the moon held less than 10.000 years of "moon-dust". Oh well, such is man. Over the years as a student, and as someone who has taught, I realized an important tact. The MORE you know what someone knows, the more you know them. Scientists have for centuries teaching us more of what GOD KNOWS merely by discovering what HE DID. Tom, never stop wanting to know HIM more. As far as keeping my chin up – it sags too much. :) Blessings, Taleb |
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