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1 | Are there any "people" created by Satan? | Gen 2:7 | slide_m46 | 75801 | ||
Could the devil have created some "people" who now inhabit this earth and they make up those who are not saved. If someone thinks so, then is there any scriptural support for such an idea? Thanks. |
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2 | Are there any "people" created by Satan? | Gen 2:7 | goodlife | 75909 | ||
continued-- Still not even close to considering what I say to be relavent? how about we then consider whaat kind of god satan is, how about we consider what it is man has come to expect from his God. Let me ask you why is it you think christ was murdered, why is it that men wanted nothing more then to shut Him up? Becasue christ promised to completely destroy and incinerate the very last of mans hopes, in christ we find the the very foundation of all our sinful hopes and all our selfish aspiration of glory are sinply laid to waste. After all here we have christ a vagrant, a bum, a worthless no account vagabond--and yet he tells us that he is God, he is not the great and mighty spectacle we seek to have, he is not a God that will satisfy our void like appetites and he is not a God that inspires us to find great passion and love for ourselves, he is a God without pride, he is a God who speaks simply, he is a God who walks softly, not the arrogant and loud screaming fire breathing monster we seek to see. But let us take a closer look at satan if we would dare! What we find is that satan is in fact the embodyment of every last thing man has come to adore--satan is big, powerful, larger than life, all knowing, deceitful, cunning, smooth, provoking, awe inspiring, wrathful, vengeful, full of lust and greed, non compromising in his way. And in all this satan is the type of God that will in fact give to man whatever it is he asks for. By this I ask you to further consider what really happened to Isreal in the desert on their great exodous. Why did they roam around for forty yaers in a wasteland? It is because they rejected the land offered to them by God, they rejected it for the simple and undeniable reason that they did not trust God, specifically they did not understand how God could even begin to understand what it is they wanted, much less then move to give to them the same. And so they freely took the desert wasteland instead of the land of milk and honey, they took the desert becasue they knew it was not from God, and while in the desert they quickly found out that it was not a place they could bear to live in, so what did they do, what is it theri pride forced them to do--they did what they could to make it bearable, they turned to satan, the god of their own hand. This brings me to the temptation of christ--for christ too went into the same desert, christ was there a day for every year that isreal wandered, and christ was confronted by the notion, the manifestation of satan. What did satan immediately offer to christ, a way out of the desert--no no no, instead satan offered to make it bearable for christ so that christ may stay there and call it his kingdom--and as we all know christ flat out refused the offer basically declaring that the desert already has a god and that the desert has no need for a ruler, and that only a fool would seek to call upon the wind swept sands as his subjects. I think I have said enough for now--if anyone would like to further discuss the issue of satans nonexistence I would be more then happy to accomodate them. Thank you for your time. |
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3 | Are there any "people" created by Satan? | Gen 2:7 | BradK | 75925 | ||
Dear goodlife, Your rather lengthy treatise on the nonexistence of Satan is rather perplexing! Are you serious? You state,"if anyone would like to further discuss the issue of satans nonexistence I would be more then happy to accomodate them." Would you be so kind as to provide some scriptural basis for your contentions? You give absolutely none! As this is a Study Bible Forum you might do well to familiarize yourself with the guidelines:-) As to your contention that "man" created satan, this contradicts my understanding of the Doctrine of Satan! As to his nature, we know he is a created angelic being. He was created as part of the angelic realm (Eph. 6:11,12, Ezek.24:18) and was the highest in rank of them all ( Ezek. 28:12-14). As to the "non-existence os satan", how do you then account for the fact that 7 OT books and every NT writer refer to satan? Jesus Himself referred to satan (Matt.13:39, Luke 10:18,11;18)! According to your theory, the Apostle Paul wasted a lot of space in writing Ephesians 6:1-10 in commanding believers to "take up the whole armor of God?" Why are we admonished further in Eph. 6:16 to,"in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one." My friend, I'd be much more inclined to consider the relevence of what you say if you could provide proof. Other than that, you've only offered an opinion- and at that-not a very well founded one. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Are there any "people" created by Satan? | Gen 2:7 | slide_m46 | 76035 | ||
I must say that I have no idea what you're talking about Goodlife. I asked the question because of some scripture in which our Lord Jesus says that some are "of their Father the Devil." In actuality I am wrestling with the issue of the predestination of the elect, and how that might "square" with the idea that maybe those not elected for salvation possibly aren't elected because they have a different "father", ie. satan. I wanted to know if there might be any scriptural support for that concept. No matter, there is no denying that Jesus is my savior and I only wish that all could be so moved by the Spirit as to accept Christ and participate in His saving grace. God bless you. | ||||||
5 | Are there any "people" created by Satan? | Gen 2:7 | Emmaus | 76080 | ||
slide m46, Jesus was referring to spiritual children of Satan, when he spoke to the Paharisees of their "father" Satan. Jesus makes this point in John 8:39-45. They claimed to be children of Abraham physically and spirituall as weel as sons of God spiritually. Jesus was making the point that it is spiritual sonship by obedient faith, like Abraham's, that is important. See Romans 8:14-16 for the flip side: "For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God ..." See also Galatians 4:6. There are other verses which also support this understanding spiritual offspring. Emmaus |
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