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1 | Do we understand suffering in delighting | Ps 37:4 | DocTrinsograce | 215832 | ||
Dear Momma, How are you doing, ma'am? I was actually thinking of you as I posted to hopalong the other day (post #215739). I was hoping that you would read about his current trials. Considering 2 Corinthians 1:4-5 and your own experiences, perhaps you are uniquely qualified to encourage our brother in your prayers. Regarding your question, I think that we need to regard Christ's prayer in the light of the full context of His work as the Lamb. I believe it was John Calvin who pointed out that the physical experience that Jesus was about to face was not the source of His anguish. Physically, our Lord's experience, though awful, was not worse than many other martyrs faced. (I would commend Foxes Book of Martyrs to anyone.) Rather it was the utterly horrendous cup of God's wrath that was to be poured forth on Him as a just and complete payment for the sins of the redeemed. Note how Christ goes from the garden, not in passive submission to that which He cannot avoid, but rather in love for the Father. The author of Hebrews notes just that kind of steadfast, active perseverance. He is willing to give everything for God's honor and glory. Why? Because that is His true worth! You know, Calvin once wrote, "it is only by temporary stripes that the Lord chastises His Church." It is hard for me to imagine. In some unfathomable way, Christ had an eternity of hell and damnation poured upon Him for me alone. Now multiply that by every one of God's elect. None of us can even begin to grasp it... But Jesus did. Doesn't that shed a very different light on the events in the garden? Sure looks like someone delighting in the Lord to me! Just my thoughts on the matter. My apologies to any others who may have responded. As of this writing I have yet to read through them. In Him, Doc "At the moment when Christ took on Himself the sin of the world, His figure on the cross was the most grotesque, most obscene mass of concentrated sin in the history of the world. God is too holy to look on iniquity, so when Christ hung on the cross, the Father, as it were, turned His back. He averted His face and He cut off His Son. Jesus, Who, touching His human nature, had been in a perfect, blessed relationship with God throughout His ministry, now bore the sin of God's people, and so He was forsaken by God." --R. C. Sproul |
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2 | Do we understand suffering in delighting | Ps 37:4 | Mommapbs | 215838 | ||
Greetings Doc - I am well, thank you! I thank God for His hand of healing in my body. But I am still suffering. The Sea of What If rages at times . . . When one member suffers we all suffer. That's why we pray. Just knowing that others are praying with and for me makes all the difference at times. There is great comfort here. The suffering of Jesus is beyond my comprehension. Indeed, by His stripes we are healed. Recently, so many people around me have suffered great tragedies, grief that I can not imagine how one bears. And yet I am reminded than the ultimate tragedy is not knowing the LORD. I was recently asked if during my illness I ever felt abandoned by the church. Absolutely. But NEVER by the LORD! He brought HIS people to minister to me - some were believers, others were not. Amazing! Suffering teaches one to depend upon God, for HE is the only source of peace, comfort and security. My own suffering does not compare to that of those who have lost loved ones in recent days and I find I have no words to offer except Psalm 37:4. Flee to Him, rejoice in Him, abide in Him and He will give His desires to fill empty and broken hearts. He is the God of all compassion; He knows our griefs yet we have the joy of seeing His face through it all. Re: hopalong; I pray that he will always know the joy of the LORD'S presence and agree that these present sufferings are not worth comparing to the glory that will be revealed . . . Choosing to obey God is a matter of will; doing it is the work of the Holy Spirit. So much of the time I have focused my prayer: “Lord, make my life count;” when it should be, “Lord, make YOUR life in me accomplish YOUR purpose.” I think that my prayers have changed as I have learned to "delight in the Lord." He gives me new desires, His. I find that I am often overwhelmed by the shadow of cancer in my life, so perhaps the suffering of others in recent days has been used by God to revel my self focus; to draw my attention toward others and Himself and perhaps to better understand the fellowship of His suffering . . . I still struggle, sometimes it is a battle best fought in the Garden where I see the example of surrender; I see the Cross; but more importantly, I know there is an empty tomb. This gives me hope. May you continue to tell of His excellent greatness, recount His works, praise Him continually. May you know Him to make Him known. mommapbs |
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