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1 | Is the Promised Land the Israel of today | Hebrews | JohnK | 42364 | ||
National Israel today, is not the Israel that is talked about in the New Testament. The Old Testament was used as an example of things to come. Remember how it was okay to stone someone for sinning in the Old Testament, yet it was NOT okay in the the New Testament? This was due to the fact that the Old Testament was a shadow of things to come. So to, national Israel was a shadow of the Church. God's chosen people are those that are saved and are under his mercy. This was made clear when Christ commanded his disciples to go and preach to all nations. Never did Christ refer to the country of Israel as God's chosen people. He clearly refered to those called to believe in him as his chosen people. Remember, "...that which is flesh is flesh, and that whish is spirit is spirit..." Some people will argue that it was prophesied that God will scatter his people Israel to the four corners of the earth and then gather them together again in a new Israel. While that is indeed said in the bible, and it may seem that that is what happened in 1948, you will see that this prophecy is unfolding with the Christian people in this way: Christianity started in Israel, and then Christ commanded that the apostles go and spread the word to "peoples of all nations..." By doing this, God was in a sense, scattering his chosen people to the four corners of the earth. And the great battle, "Armageddon" is not a war that will be fought by nations, as some will argue, but it is a war in the church. The war in the church is caused by spreading of false gospels and of perverting the Word of God. God didn't send Christ to save flesh, he sent Christ to save the soul, so why would he care about what country does what? "Render unto Caesar the things of Caesar, and unto God the things of God." So you see, the nation of Israel that existed before Christ was a symbol of God's church, much in the same way that stoning a sinner was a symbol of God's justice. We must read the bible with great care in that we must seek the spiritual message it is giving us, rather than what we think it saying about the physical world. If we don't do this, then one could easily read the book of Revelations and expect that a dragon will come out of the sea and devour everybody. The bible is full of symbolic meanings and messages, and it is our duty to seek out that which is spiritual, not physical. So keep your faith, and remember to look forward to OUR promised land, the Kingdom of Heaven. |
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2 | Is the Promised Land the Israel of today | Hebrews | kalos | 42386 | ||
"That the Christian now inherits the distinctive Jewish promises is not taught in Scripture." Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Taking the 11th chapter of Romans at face value, it is obvious that Paul is writing of literal Israel, literal Jews. "Of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin" is speaking of the literal offspring of Abraham and the literal tribe of Benjamin. "Avoid spiritualizing or allegorizing the Bible. This is that which gives to the Bible some kind of mystical meaning. In other words, what is on the surface is not the meaning, but what is hidden becomes the meaning. This is very popular. Allegorizing means to say that the historical meaning is not the real meaning, and in fact may be nothing but a fabrication. The historical meaning is not the real meaning, the real meaning is the spiritual meaning hidden beneath the surface. "And once you say that something in the Bible is an allegory, that is it is only a symbol of the reality, you have just made it impossible to know what that reality is because if that reality cannot be discerned through the normal understanding of language, how can it be discerned?" (from the radio message: "How to Study Your Bible: Interpretation" by John MacArthur on Grace to You broadcast) "That Israel has not been forever set aside is the theme of this chapter (Romans 11). "(1) The salvation of Paul proves that there is still a remnant (Romans 11:1 ) "(2) The doctrine of the remnant proves it (Romans 11:2-6). "(3) The present national unbelief was foreseen (Romans 11:7-10). "(4) Israel's unbelief is the Gentile opportunity (Romans 11:11-25). "(5) Israel is judicially broken off from the good olive tree, Christ (Romans 11:17-22 ). "(6) They are to be grafted in again (Romans 11:23,24). "(7) The promised Deliverer will come out of Zion and the nation will be saved (Romans 11:25-29). That the Christian now inherits the distinctive Jewish promises is not taught in Scripture. The Christian is of the heavenly seed of Abraham (Genesis 15:5,6; Galatians 3:29) and partakes of the spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant." "But Israel as a nation always has it own place and is yet to have its greatest exaltation as the earthly people of God." Bibliography Information Scofield, C.I. "Scofield Reference Notes on Jude 1". "Scofield Reference Notes (1917 Edition)". (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/ScofieldReferenceNotes/) 1917. |
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3 | Is the Promised Land the Israel of today | Hebrews | JohnK | 42388 | ||
Quoting you, " Note: That the Christian now inherits the distinctive Jewish promises is not taught in Scripture." So, are you saying that those that are saved are not God's elect? Are you saying that if someone is a Jew, and doesn't believe in Christ that they will inherit the promise rather than those who in believe in Him? The bible teaches that those that beleive in Christ are the elect, NOT those that deny him. If you don't read the bible for it's spiritual message, then you must also believe that the dragon in revelations is not to be interpreted spiritually and that this huge monster will soon come out of the sea. |
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