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1 | evidence being filled with holy spirit | Romans | Searcher56 | 100597 | ||
Sctipture ... Acts, 1 Cor 12-14 ... The Corinthian church abused the minor gift of tongues, as is many churches today. Speaking in tongues of one of the gifts of the Spirit and next to last ... therefore a lesser (minor) gift. It is a temporal gift ... and at the very least we will not see this gift when He returns - so if there is a heavenly language now, spoken by angels - they will have to learn a new language. Moreover, only two salvation accounts in Acts have people speaking in tongues. |
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2 | evidence being filled with holy spirit | Romans | john r | 100664 | ||
Thanks for your comments. I get the feeling that your answer means that you probably attend a church where it is stated in the doctrine/beliefs that the "signs" gifts have ceased with the apostles. I am sure you know that many people who were not apostles are mentioned in the Bible as having these sign gifts. As far as spiritual gifts being temporal......when Jesus returns, we won't need the gift of tongues or any other special gifts, and all will be perfect for those who will reside in heaven. Also, salvation and the baptism in the Holy Spirit are two seperate and distinct things, with the evidence of tongues not being the same as the gift of tongues, although a person may receive that particular gift. Anyway, I am not sure of your intent with your reply. What exactly are you saying? Are some spiritual gifts no longer given? If so, how do you biblically defend that? How do you explain the many accounts in Acts where the receiving of the Holy Spirit, and the initial evidence of tongues, is directly and indirectly mentioned? What is the explanation of these passages of scripture? I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks again for your comments. John R |
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3 | evidence being filled with holy spirit | Romans | Searcher56 | 100668 | ||
First, I don't agree with all the doctrinal statements of the church I attend ... or any church. But, I am not leaving because of soe minor issues. You ask ... Are some spiritual gifts no longer given? If so, how do you biblically defend that? 1 Cor 13:8-10 says two gifts - prophecy (12:10) and knowledge (12:8) will disappear when perfection come ... tongues will be stilled without a cause. Tongues are for unbelivers (14:22) - the Jewish unbelivers (14:21, Isa 28:11,12) ... study tongues in the OT - what do you see? You said "when Jesus returns, we won't need the gift of tongues or any other special gifts, and all will be perfect for those who will reside in heaven." I pointed a contradiction above. You ask ... How do you explain the MANY accounts in Acts where the receiving of the Holy Spirit, and the initial evidence of tongues, is directly and indirectly mentioned? ... let us look in Acts ... only TWO accounts where there is the initial evidence of tongues -2:41 ... 3,000 saved. The 120 spoke in known languages (2:6 ff) -2:27 ... many daily -4:4 ... 5,000 saved -8:14-17 ... Samaritans -8:34-39 ... Ethopian -9:5-19 ... Paul (tho he spoke in tongues later (1 Cor 13:1)) *10:44-48 Cornelius and his house ... they did speak in tongues ... they were Gentiles, showing the Jews, they could become Christains -16:14-15 ... Lydia -16:31-34 ... jailer and his house *19:5-7 ... about 12 disciples of John ... they did speak in tongues. ... linking John who preached before Christ to Him - There are more accounts during Paul's trips. You said, "salvation and the baptism in the Holy Spirit are two seperate and distinct things" By one Spirit we all have been baptized (1 Cor 12:13) -- past tense. It happened when we were saved. In 10:13 says that we were all baptized into one body no matter who we are -- Jew, Greek, bond, or free. There are no Christians who are out of the body. One question how is "the evidence of tongues not being the same as the gift of tongues"?? |
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