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1 | When did the day of worship change? | Acts | userdoe220 | 18831 | ||
The pattern did begin in the Book of Acts. Acts 20:7 7 Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. It appears that Paul had some formal meeting in mind when asking for this offering to be collected. 1 Cor 16:1-3 16:1 Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. |
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2 | When did the day of worship change? | Acts | Yoshua | 18846 | ||
With these two passages I don't think you have the freedom to choice wich day you want to adore Him. Let's clarify the issue: The Law of GOd (Moral or 10 Comm)is eternal. The 4th Commandment (note says commandment not proposal) its included in that Law. Therefore, the Sabbath is the day Lord asks us to keep holy. The Bible doesn't change these day. Your two verses don't validate the adoration in sunday in the way the Bible validates the Lord's adoration in Sabbath. Paul and the apostles preach in Sabbath. See Acts 13:42,44. And Paul by these time wasn't jewish ¿isn't he? But look Acts 17:2. "As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures," His custom? And he wasn't jewish no more? So he kept Sabbath! OH praise the Lord!, the Bible does validate teh adoration on Sabbath/Saturday. It is written. |
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3 | When did the day of worship change? | Acts | userdoe220 | 18857 | ||
I have no doubt that Paul worshipped on the Sabbath, but that still does not negate the verse in Acts 20 that has him worshipping on Sunday. Acts 20:7 7 Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. "OH praise the Lord!, the Bible does validate teh adoration on" Sunday. If the Bible has Paul or any other apostle or church meeting on Sunday one time, that is enough for me to believe it is not a sin—Unless they were publicly rebuked for doing so which did not happen. You still have not commented on two very clear passages on this subject. I am not into playing Bible Verse Ping-pong. 1.) Paul and many other Christians did meet on Saturday 2.) They also met on Sundays as well. These two thoughts can be complimentary and not contradictory if you adopt my view on this issue: As long as you choose one day to honor the Lord, you will be right with God. Lets look at three ways you can approach this issue: 1. If I said that you could only worship on Sunday, I could be proven wrong scripturally. Why? Because there are verses that show the apostles attending the Synagogues on Saturday. 2. If I said that you could only worship on Saturday, I could also be proven wrong because in Acts 20, Paul is meeting together with the church in Ephesus breaking bread and holding a church service on Sunday. 3. However, if I told you that you could worship on Sunday or Saturday because in the N.T. you see apostles worshipping on both of those days, I could not be proven wrong. To use verses and completely ignore other verses that don’t coincide with your beliefs is what I call Bible ping-pong. I have my verse and you have your verse and whenever you pull out your verse I am going to pull out my verse. You have got to reconcile these passages. 1 Cor 16:1-3 16:1 Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. It seems like the custom for the Church of Corinth was to meet on Sunday's as well. Paul never told them they were in violation for "not keeping the Sabbath Law" nor did he tell them they were in sin. Acts 17:2. "As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures," What was Paul’s purpose for entering the Synagogue? To try and find converts not worship with them—although he might have joined in on the worship service. The whole purpose of recording this passage here and other places in the book of Acts is not to reinforce Sabbath worship, but to show that although Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles, he still sought to win the lost in his old faith to Jesus Christ. I was kind enough to answer your objections and verses you supplied and am really anxious to hear your response. In His name Schwartzkm |
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4 | When did the day of worship change? | Acts | Yoshua | 18863 | ||
1) About Acts 20:7 Does Acts 20:7 Teach Sunday Worship? Was Paul really preaching on Sunday in Acts 20:7? A close look dispels this popular belief and discloses important days for observing today. A most controversial and debated passage in the entire New Testament is found in Acts 20:7: "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight." Often cited as proof that the early disciples had been instructed by the Savior to observe Sunday, this verse supposedly shows that they were indeed now keeping the first day of the week instead of observing the day we know as Saturday. Certain translations of this passage render it the same as the King James Version, namely, "the first day of the week." However, other translations render it Saturday night (New English Bible, Good News for Modern Man). How are we to understand this enigmatic passage? Churchianity’s understanding of this passage is divided. Those who worship on Sunday insist this is a powerful passage in support of Sunday-keeping, and is a paramount verse used to show that the Apostle Paul was now keeping Sunday as a day of worship. But Sabbath-keepers contend that it is indeed a Saturday evening message Paul preached that lasted into the night, into the first day of the week that begins at sunset (known to us as Sunday). They cite verses 8 and 9 to substantiate that it was evening and that there were many lights in the upper chamber. The evidence indicates that this latter understanding provides a clearer explanation. Biblical days end with sunset as well as start at sunset. No Communion Happening Here Believe it or not, Acts 20:7 was never inspired by Yahweh’s Spirit to support Sunday worship! It has been twisted to teach a counterfeit day of worship. These verses have nothing to do with observing Sunday, but actually show that Paul was keeping the same Holy Days given to Israel that will be kept in the Kingdom. Neither does this verse teach us to partake each Sunday of the symbols of the body and blood of our beloved Savior by taking the cup and breaking of bread. The expression "breaking of bread" here simply means sharing a common meal such as in Acts 2:42; 46. Note especially Acts 27:35: "And when [Paul] had thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to Yahweh in presence of them all: and when he had broken it, he began to eat." Bread in those days was not sliced as today, but broken off in chunks, then often dipped in a sauce or broth before being eaten. Acts 20:11 shows that Paul, having revived Eutychus, went back up and ate bread, continuing his conversation until daybreak. This Was 25 Years AFTER Yahshua Verse 6 tells us that Paul sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, arriving in Troas five days later where they stayed for seven days. Passover and the days of Unleavened Bread always come around the time of the spring barley harvest heralding the first of the seven annual Feast Days for Israel. Why does Luke, in the year 57, make special mention of the Days of Unleavened Bread, which always follow the spring festival of Passover? This is some 25 years after the Messiah’s death and ascension to the heavens! If the Days of Unleavened Bread are now done away, as some erroneously teach, why does Luke call attention to them in Paul’s dealing with the Gentiles? Paul had evidently stayed in Philippi to observe these days with the non-Israelite Philippian brethren. Notice that the cup or fruit of the vine is nowhere mentioned in Acts 20:7-11, as it is in 1Corinthians 10:16. The cup would be required had this been an observance of the Passover or the "Master’s Supper." Furthermore, verse 6 reveals that Paul had already kept this annual memorial service before his arrival in Troas. It is quite clear that upon Paul’s planning to depart from Troas, the brethren came together for a common meal, a "farewell supper," and Paul preached a discourse unto them, continuing until midnight and beyond. Paul was not partaking of a "Communion" or "Master’s Supper." He ate later, verse 11. The cup or "fruit of the vine" are nowhere mentioned. This was a common meal. This verse has a much more profound meaning for those who are searching for Yahweh’s truth and seeking His will. Understanding this verse will help us go on unto perfection. Paul Observes An Annual Sabbath In Green’s Interlinear Bible, where the English is translated directly under the Greek, Acts 20:7 reads, "on and the one of the Sabbaths." In the King James the word "week" is the Greek plural of No. 4521 in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and means the Sabbath. It is the equivalent of the Hebrew No. 7676 and means the Sabbath, the day of weekly repose, a rest from secular avocations. to be continued... |
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5 | When did the day of worship change? | Acts | userdoe220 | 18890 | ||
here is my cut and paste argument: Proof Apostle Paul did not keep the Sabbath these 84 times: A. The Bible no where says that Paul or ANY Christian kept the Sabbath according to the commandment after the resurrection. 1. What we do have are frequent examples of Paul preaching to nonChristian Jews in THEIR synagogue on THEIR Sabbath day, that they are lost without Jesus! Should this surprise us? Do Sabbatarians Pastors "keep Sunday" if they preach in a Christian church on the first day of the week? B. These passages speak of Paul preaching to the non-Christian Jews in their synagogues. 1. None of these passages, or any other in the New Testament, ever speak of Christians worshipping on the Sabbath day. 2. If Paul preaching to Jews on the Sabbath day proves he kept the Sabbath, then it also proves Paul kept synagogue worship as well! C. If Paul "kept the Sabbath" because he preached Christ to non-Christian Jews on THEIR Sabbath day in THEIR synagogue: 1. then Paul also kept all the other ceremonial laws that the non-Christian Jews practiced while he was there as well. 2. then a Seventhday Adventist pastor "keeps Monday" just because he preaches to Muslims in their Mosque on Monday that they are lost without Christ! 3. then a Seventh-day Adventist pastor "keeps Sunday" just because he preaches to a church of "Sunday keeping" Christians on "Sunday" that they are breaking the Sabbath law! 4. What proves too much proves nothing at all! Adventist False Argument #2: "The fact that the Bible mentions Paul preaching on the Sabbath proves we must keep it" False Argument #2 Refuted: 1. Just because the very first preaching of the Gospel occurred on the day of Pentecost, does not mean Christian must keep Pentecost! Acts 2:1 thru 38 2. Paul also rushed to get back to Jerusalem on Pentecost: Acts 20:16 3. Pentecost always fell on a Sunday 4. Does this mean he was keeping Pentecost feast? 5. No! It provided him a great opportunity to teach. 6. No where after the resurrection "keeping the Sabbath according to the commandment" Adventist False Argument Number3: "Paul kept "the Law", therefore the Sabbath is still binding!" (Additional Sabbatarian proof texts: Acts 21:20-28; Acts 24:14; Acts 26:22; Rom 3:31) False Argument Number3 Refuted: A. Look closely at what Paul said: Acts 21:20-28 "And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, "You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. "What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. "Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses in order that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 1. Acts 21:20-28: forsake Moses and circumcise equals keeping the Law 2. If Sabbatarians are right, then they better start also practicing circumcision |
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