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1 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | junmeskie | 102646 | ||
The Satanic doctrine of "Once Saved, Always Saved" seems to have originated mainly with Fundamentalist Christians. The perfect example of how this doctrine is false is Judas Iscariot. He believed in Jesus Christ, walked with Him, was one of the Twelve and was given the same powers from Him as the others. Yet what Christian believes that Judas Iscariot went to Heaven? According to this doctrine, I would say Fundamentalist Christians would have to believe Judas is in Heaven as he more than met the requirements of salvation according to this false doctrine. Another good example is Lucifer (Satan) - abided in Heaven, knew God Himself, lived with God Himself yet he was not "saved" when given the opportunity for he now resides in Hell as punishment for the sin of pride. This sin occurred AFTER having known and accepted God. In my opinion, this doctrine helps Satan greatly by instilling a false sense of security and self-confidence among Christians concerning their salvation. They think they can't sin anymore and even if they do, no punishment will be due them as Christ paid for all our sins. This makes it easier for Satan to tempt us to sin. How can we be assured of our own salvation if Paul wasn't (1 Corinthians 9:27)? Salvation is not a "one time" event, but an ongoing process until "the end" (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Mark 13:13). |
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2 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | khuck | 102744 | ||
My 2nd response: Judas and satan are the best examples that you could find to prove my beliefs to be demonic? (that in and of itself makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up) But ok I will use what you have offered. You said and I quote, "Another good example is Lucifer (Satan) - abided in Heaven, knew God Himself, lived with God Himself yet he was not "saved" when given the opportunity..." If I am to accept this statement, then the operative word in your quote would be "OPPORTUNITY" which God gave satan. Opportunities are often passed over and not accepted. In satan's case that then would be true. satan did not want to be WITH God.... he wanted to BE God. Scripure identifies him as God's enemy and the adversary who is constantly accusing God's people, often unjustly. The word Satan Means: adversary; accuser - When used as a proper name, the Hebrew word translated as "Satan" has the article "the adversary" (Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7) Devil -Greek: diabolos; Meaning: a slanderer The devil is the arch-enemy of man's spiritual interest (Job 1:6; Rev. 2:10; Zech. 3:1). He is "Beelzebub, the prince of the devils" (12:24). He is "the constant enemy of God, of Christ, of the divine kingdom, of the followers of Christ, and of all truth; full of falsehood and all malice, and exciting and seducing to evil in every possible way." You wrote: ...for he now resides in Hell as punishment for the sin of pride. Satan does not reside in hell for having been too proud (that is not sound doctrine) The truth is that satan is the prince of this world. Peter warns: Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8 His power is very great in the world. He is a "roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Pet. 5:8). Men are said to be "taken captive by him" (2 Tim. 2:26). Christians are warned against his "devices" (2 Cor. 2:11), and called on to "resist" him (James 4:7). Christ redeems his people from "him that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (Heb. 2:14). Satan has the "power of death," not as lord, but simply as executioner. I'd pretty much say from this information that satan willing blew the opportunity that you stated was afforded him. -khuck |
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