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1 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102383 | ||
In one of my previous posts I stated something to the affect of the following; "can not is obsurdity; will not, I tend to agree with." There is no such thing as "more salvation!" Continued salvation would be more suitable. Per Mr Webster; Salvation is 1 a : deliverance from the power and effects of sin b : the agent or means that effects salvation c Christian Science : the realization of the supremacy of infinite Mind over all bringing with it the destruction of the illusion of sin, sickness, and death 2 : liberation from ignorance or illusion 3 a : preservation from destruction or failure b : deliverance from danger or difficulty The statement "once saved, always saved" states that one can not turn from the deliverance from danger or difficulty. Your post strengthens my agreement with the "will not" portion of that statement, yet and still, I can't yet agree with "once saved, always saved," but I can't say that I totally disagree with it either. Dear soul, you stated "I do believe wholeheartedly, that He that saved me, is more than capable to keep me." I do too. But scripture teachs that one "can remove his name from the Lambs Book of life." If anyone can, through scripture prove "once saved, always saved," I will accept that statement. Otherwise, through scripture I will continue to assert the statement that "this is a dangerous" way to believe. Either way; the bottom line is that we accept, believe, and repent. This is the foundation. All other discussion is "non essential." I can, and will agree to disagree with my bretherin in this matter. I pray they can and will do the same. What does "IMHO" mean? All for One And One for all. In Christ George |
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2 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | khuck | 102460 | ||
Greetings George: As stated previously there is no reproach intented in any comments made by me on this forum. I just find the word of God to be engaging I love lending my opinions to the dialogue. As for the comment "more salvation"... I used it in the context as I did to show the futility of such a notion. IMHO is an Acronym for "In my humble opinion". I apologize for the obscure abbreviation. My belief that once saved, one is saved eternally is confirmed in my heart when I read Romans (in response to your comment regarding Scriptural proof... which is lengthy) rom 5 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! 10 For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. 20 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom 7 14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Rom 8 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, 4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. 5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; 7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. 8 Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. 9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you. Therefore again IMHO Romans chapters 5 - 8 (among with scriptures) sums it up and shows that those who truly belong to Christ are saved indeed... Because GRACE ABOUNDS! Hallelujah! -khuck |
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