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1 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | John Reformed | 102389 | ||
"Eternal life IS ETERNAL. ETERITY is forever, not bondage. To have something, one MUST accept something, and retain it as well." ---------------------------------------- You have life George, when did you agree to exist? And what power do you have to retain your existence? -------------------------------------- "In the case of the "prodical son". Had that son died in the process of splurging his inheritance, would he have died within the will of his father? I think not. The father would have grieved because he loved the child, but he would have never condoned the childs action." -------------------------------- The father in the parable is God. He cetainly could have saved the boy from death if that was His will. -------------------------------- "Just like that prodical son, we all have to "accept" the will of the Father, and continue to live and strive to the best of our ability to be pleasing in His sight." -------------------------------- I hate to say it George, but that sounds too close to "salvation by works" to me. ---------------------------------- "I appologize. I do not believe "Once saved, always saved." I do believe that those who do believe this way believe dangerously. I believe in "Grace." "No one can convince me that the man or woman who has served God all their life, and because of one of lifes tragedies fallen away from their belief, will enter the gates of heaven. For the righteous are not saved by their acts of righteousness. Nor are the sinfull condemned by their acts of sin." ------------------------------------- We are given life and are forced to live until we die. We are given eternal life, not on the basis of our will but God's (John 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.). Happily, with this gift of grace, we also recieve the gift of God's Spirit dwelling in us (Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,). But what does it mean to be "sealed in Him"? It means our security in Christ has been made an unalterable fact, cofirmed by God Himself. In olden times royal documents were sealed with a wax seal which had imprinted on it the signet of the King. No one, but the one to whom the document was intended for, could break that seal. Therefore, those who are sealed cannot unseal themselves. We were drawn by the Father and given to the Son and He said that we would be raised on the last day (John 6). Where I think you are going wrong is in your idea that any person who is in Christ may be anything but gratefull and happy for having recieved such a wonderfull gift. Those who fall from faith, fall from a faith that was false to begin with. Only the Spirit of God is able to have you see this; I pray that He will. To God be the Glory, Your Brother John |
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2 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | GeorJoy | 102411 | ||
Bro John, as I am sure you will agree, some simply can not or will not understand. Along with the few who have the nerve to "stand firm," I will not be swayed by the (opinions) of others when scripture plainly tells me contrary. It is apparent that you simply do not understand my argument. I understand where you are coming from and I wish you could truly understand what you read. Paul says not to quarrel about issues that are a matter of opinion. You have your opinion. I have mine. My opinion is based on scripture. I am sure you contend likewise. Considering the fact that both sides on this issue have been stated, and much opinion as to scriptural interptitation has surfaced, I should think that quarreling is the next phase. Thus I will rest my case and admit only to a draw, agreeing to dissagree. Humbly George |
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