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1 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | EdB | 99183 | ||
John You said, "As long as one believes that fallen man has even a spark of spiritual life inside his heart, that one will not appreciate fully the grace od God in salvation." Your saying we are spiritually dead, but since we are essentially spiritual beings locked into a human form, seems to be in conflict with fact. And how does that effect grace? If you give me something and I take or reject it, does that effect what you offer? Or the fact you offered it? Your trying to make grace mystical something God gives to some who know nothing about it but must accept it and once they get it are thrilled and that God doesn't give to others that know nothing about but aren't even aware they are missing it. I think that is a definition that degrades grace rather than Grace freely given to all who would accept it. Show me your definition in scripture I would like to read it. EdB |
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2 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | John Reformed | 99215 | ||
Your trying to make grace mystical something God gives to some who know nothing about it but must accept it and once they get it are thrilled and that God doesn't give to others that know nothing about but aren't even aware they are missing it. I think that is a definition that degrades grace rather than Grace freely given to all who would accept it. Show me your definition in scripture I would like to read it. EdB Your conclusions are so far from what I believe I wonder if we both speak the same language. |
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3 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | John Reformed | 99229 | ||
God is Sovereign in the exercise of His mercy. Necessarily so, for mercy is directed by the will of Him that showeth mercy. Mercy is not a right to which man is entitled. Mercy is that adorable attribute of God by which He pities and relieves the wretched. But under the righteous government of God no one is wretched who does not deserve to be so. The objects of mercy, then, are those who are miserable, and all misery is the result of sin, hence the miserable are deserving of punishment not mercy. To speak of deserving mercy is a contradiction of terms. God bestows His mercies on whom He pleases and withholds them as seemeth good unto Himself. A remarkable illustration of this fact is seen in the manner that God responded to the prayers of two men offered under very similar circumstances. Sentence of death was passed upon Moses for one act of disobedience, and he besought the Lord for a reprieve. But was his desire gratified? No; he told Israel, "The LORD was wroth with me for your sakes, and would not hear me: and the LORD said unto me, Let it suffice thee" (Deut. 3:26). Now mark the second case: "In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live. Then he turned his face to the wall, and prayed unto the LORD, saying, I beseech Thee, O LORD, remember now how I have walked before Thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in Thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore. And it came to pass, afore Isaiah was gone out into the middle court, that the word of the LORD came to him, saying, Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go unto the house of the LORD. And I will add unto thy days fifteen years" (2 Kings 20:1-6). Both of these men had the sentence of death in themselves, and both prayed earnestly unto the Lord for a reprieve: the one wrote: "The Lord would not hear me," and died; but to the other it was said, "I have heard thy prayer," and his life was spared. What an illustration and exemplification of the truth expressed in Romans 9:15!-"For He saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." The Sovereign exercise of God's mercy-pity shown to the wretched-was displayed when Jehovah became flesh and tabernacled among men. Take one illustration. During one of the Feasts of the Jews, the Lord Jesus went up to Jerusalem. He came to the Pool of Bethesda where lay "a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water." Among this "great multitude" there was "a certain man which had an infirmity thirty and eight years." What happened? "When Jesus saw him He, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole? The impotent man answer Him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but when I am coming, another steppeth down before me. Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked" (John 5:3-9). Why was this one man singled out from all the others? We are not told that he cried "Lord, have mercy on me." There is not a word in the narrative which intimates that this man possessed any qualifications which entitled him to receive special favor. Here then was a case of the Sovereign exercise of Divine mercy, for it was just as easy for Christ to heal the whole of that "great multitude" as this one "certain man." But He did not. He put forth His power and relieved the wretchedness of this one particular sufferer, and for some reason known only to Himself, He declined to do the same for the others. Again, we say, what an illustration and exemplification of Romans 9:15!-"I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." (Arthur Pink) |
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4 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | EdB | 99272 | ||
More doctrine of man. I always thought God desired none to perish that He sent His Son to whosoever would believe. Then Calvin tells me I had it all wrong that God created people to send to hell. Doesn't sound like my God, doesn't sound like the God of scripture, doesn't sound like the God of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Sounds like Calvin's god yet you keep saying it is God. I'm so confused! I think I will stick with the Bible rather than your definition if you don't mind. EdB |
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5 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | John Reformed | 99287 | ||
Hi Ed, You stated "I always thought God desired none to perish..." Matt 18:12-13 "What do you think? If any man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go and search for the one that is straying? "If it turns out that he finds it, truly I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine which have not gone astray. "So it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones perish. In context Ed, this passage is about Christ's sheep. It has to do with our eternal security not the fate of all mankind. "Whosoever believes" does cover everyone everywhere. But it does not give us the answer to the question of WHY some believe but others do not. Ps 115:3 But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. 2 Is 9:17 Therefore the Lord does not take pleasure in their young men, Nor does He have pity on their orphans or their widows; For every one of them is godless and an evildoer, And every mouth is speaking foolishness. In spite of all this, His anger does not turn away And His hand is still stretched out. Is 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure'; Rom 9:13 Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED." John |
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6 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | EdB | 99288 | ||
John Let's take your Romans 9:13 time wise you frame it before the fact. I read it framed time wise after the fact. By this I mean God knew before hand knew the heart of Esau and Jacob. God knew Esau would not appreciate or respect his inheritance but that Jacob would. If God created Esau to reject his inheritance then why hate him? He did just what he was designed to do. Further if you take this verse in context Paul is explaining call to the Gentiles. Before this God's chosen were the Jews if you wanted to be chosen you had to convert Judaism. Now the door was open through Christ to the Gentile. This passage is not explanation of individual salvation but rather the salvation of a Jews and Gentiles. Remember Peter even said Paul as hard to understand. I think this is where Calvin got mixed up since he had no theological training and couldn't have studied to much since he was only saved a year or two when he formulated his whole idea. EdB |
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7 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | John Reformed | 99300 | ||
Hi again Ed, I would be happy to discuss these points with you. But I would appreciate it if you would first tell me your thoughts on God not desiring anyone to perish. I know that the Bible teaches that He takes no pleasure from their destruction, but it does seem that scripture teaches that all His "good pleasure" is done without fail. John |
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8 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | EdB | 99308 | ||
John God desires none would be lost but He does not demand it. He through His Son our Lord Jesus Christ provided a way to salvation. His desire is that everyone will take that way. But as Jesus said the way is narrow. God allows brings us to conviction, each one of us knows we are a sinner convicted of sin, it is then our choice to accept Christ and receive salvation or reject Christ to our doom. I choose Christ EdB |
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