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1 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | Emmaus | 99140 | ||
Hank, Ooops! I left a few key wordsou the first time I am often glad that I do not have to try and figure out all the mysteries of God myself or even think that such a thing is possible. I am thankful for having authoritative teaching in such matters, even when that teacher admits that all mysteries cannot be fully explained or understod in all the details as if we were ourselves God. 600. "To God, all moments of time are present in their immediacy. When therefore he establishes his eternal plan of 'predestination', he includes in it each person's free response to his grace: 'In this city, in fact, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place.'[Acts 4:27-28 ; cf. Ps 2:1-2 .] For the sake of accomplishing his plan of salvation, God permitted the acts that flowed from their blindness.[Cf. Mt 26:54 ; Jn 18:36 ; Jn 19:11 ; Acts 3:17-18 .] 'He died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures'" To view the context, please visit http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/creed6.html#REDEMPTIVE 1037. "God predestines no one to go to hell;[Cf. Council of Orange II (529): DS 397; Council of Trent (1547):1567.] for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want 'any to perish, but all to come to repentance':[2 Pet 3:9 .] Father, accept this offering from your whole family. Grant us your peace in this life, save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen.[Roman Missal, EP I (Roman Canon) 88.]" To view the context, please visit http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/art12.html#HELL 412. "But why did God not prevent the first man from sinning? St. Leo the Great responds, 'Christ's inexpressible grace gave us blessings better than those the demon's envy had taken away.'[St. Leo the Great, Sermo 73, 4: PL 54, 396.] And St. Thomas Aquinas wrote, 'There is nothing to prevent human nature's being raised up to something greater, even after sin; God permits evil in order to draw forth some greater good. Thus St. Paul says, 'Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more'; and the Exsultet sings, 'O happy fault,. . . which gained for us so great a Redeemer!''[St. Thomas Aquinas, STh III, I, 3, ad 3; cf. Rom 5:20 .]" Emmaus |
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2 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | Hank | 99142 | ||
Emmaus - Do thyself no harm! Just about everybody has left out a key word or two, even those who print Bibles. Remember the "Wicked Bible" -- "Thou shalt commit adultery."? It was very popular in Washington and Hollywood, or so I heard :-) --Hank | ||||||
3 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | Emmaus | 99190 | ||
Hank, I think this whole issue of free will and predestination is tied into the understaning of the various kinds of grace and justification. Though fallen man cannot without the grace of God achieve his own justification, God does constantly reach out to us with a prevenient and predisposing grace that calls us closer to Him and grants us the ability to freely chose his gift(grace) of justification or reject it. Here is a doctrinal exposition of that understanding. "CHAPTER V THE NECESSITY OF PREPARATION FOR JUSTIFICATION IN ADULTS, AND WHENCE IT PROCEEDS It is furthermore declared that in adults the beginning of that justification must proceed from the predisposing grace of God through Jesus Christ, that is, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits on their part, they are called; that they who by sin had been cut off from God, may be disposed through His quickening and helping grace to convert themselves to their own justification by freely assenting to and cooperating with that grace; so that, while God touches the heart of man through the illumination of the Holy Ghost, man himself neither does absolutely nothing while receiving that inspiration, since he can also reject it, nor yet is he able by his own free will and without the grace of God to move himself to justice in His sight. Hence, when it is said in the sacred writings: Turn ye to me, and I will turn to you,[Zach. 1:3] we are reminded of our liberty; and when we reply: Convert us, O Lord, to thee, and we shall be converted,[Lam. 5:21] we confess that we need the grace of God. CHAPTER VI THE MANNER OF PREPARATION Now, they [the adults] are disposed to that justice when, aroused and aided by divine grace, receiving faith by hearing,[Rom. 10:17] they are moved freely toward God, believing to be true what has been divinely revealed and promised, especially that the sinner is justified by God by his grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus;[Rom. 3:24] and when, understanding themselves to be sinners, they, by turning themselves from the fear of divine justice, by which they are salutarily aroused, to consider the mercy of God, are raised to hope, trusting that God will be propitious to them for Christ's sake; and they begin to love Him as the fountain of all justice, and on that account are moved against sin by a certain hatred and detestation, that is, by that repentance that must be performed before baptism;[Acts 2:3] finally, when they resolve to receive baptism, to begin a new life and to keep the commandments of God. Of this disposition it is written: He that cometh to God, must believe that he is, and is a rewarder to them that seek him;[Heb. 11:6] and, Be of good faith, son, thy sins are forgiven thee;[Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5] and, The fear of the Lord driveth out sin;[Ecclus. 1:27] and, repenance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost;[Acts 2:38] and, Going, therefore, teach ye all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you;[Matt. 28:19f] finally, Prepare your hearts unto the Lord.[See 1 Kings 7:3] CHAPTER VII IN WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE SINNER CONSISTS, AND WHAT ARE ITS CAUSES This disposition or preparation is followed by justification itself, which is not only a remission of sins but also the sanctification and renewal of the inward man through the voluntary reception of the grace and gifts whereby an unjust man becomes just and from being an enemy becomes a friend, that he may be an heir according to hope of life everlasting.[Tit. 3:7]... excerpted from The Council of Trent on Justification Emmaus |
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4 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | flinkywood | 99197 | ||
Steve, This sounds cool, but it's heavy sailing, could you Cliff's Notes it a little, with a bullet or two? Colin. |
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5 | God is not the author of evil. | Job | Emmaus | 99201 | ||
Colin, OK, I'll try. God's call to fallen sinful man itself is a grace. In calling us, our hearts are illuminated by the Holy Spirit with the conviction us of our sinfulness. This conviction is itself a grace that disposes us and allows us freely to consider God's call and the Gospel and to freely choose our own sinful desires or repentance and surrender to God's grace. Thus by God's predisposing grace we receive the freedom to attain to hope which leads to repentance, faith and the grace of justification. So that grace follows upon grace unto justification and salvation. Or we freely reject God's approach to us in favor of our own unrestrained desires, so that sin follows upon sin unto our destruction. What else is the preaching of the Gospel but a grace from God. And what is the point of preaching the Gospel if it does not liberate man to the point of being able to freely choose what God is offering. The truth of the Gospel is itself a grace that sets you free to choose. Otherwise the Gospel is not preached but imposed. That is my weak effort to summarize. Emmaus |
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