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1 | Did Adam die lost? | Genesis | There | 12823 | ||
That would be kind of like saying who taught Abraham, wouldn't it? According to the bible, it was not his idolatrous parents (Joshua 24:2) that taught Abraham about the true God. But since Shem (Noah's son) was still alive at the time of Abraham (Shem died about 30 years after Abraham died), he may have learned from Shem?? But even more likely is that after God "read" Abraham's heart, He "revealed Himself" to Abraham. As to Adam. In Romans and Hebrews when Paul speaks about those who in ancient days were saved by faith -- he never mentions Adam. It begins with faithful Abel. Perhaps there is a reason? |
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2 | Did Adam die lost? | Genesis | vacindak | 12829 | ||
Possibly, however, if you remember correctly, Adam and Eve's choice of a name for their child reflected their anticipation of a Messiah. I think that sufficiently indicates their faith. And when Paul is listing those who were saved by faith, there were *many* more who were also saved by faith but who were not necessarily listed. IMHO, those lists were of people who demonstrated their faithfulness in extraordinary ways. And frankly, I doubt I would have listed Adam as a person of extraordinary faithfulness. Abel on the other hand realized the importance of a blood sacrifice, as opposed to any old sacrifice. He understood that something had to take his place. And God honored that. | ||||||
3 | Did Adam die lost? | Genesis | There | 12882 | ||
That's a good point about the name. Do you have a reference that you could show me where you got that information? I ask because I looked up the names of Cain, Abel, and Seth in the original Hebrew. To me, the meanings don't imply what you mentioned. Cain, name of 1st child, (an affinity to "a sense of fixity, lance, spear"). Abel, son of Adam, (same as emptiness, or vanity). Seth, substituted, appoint. I do agree there were many more who were saved by faith in ancient times than just those Paul listed. But I'm not sure we can assume that Adam was saved since the Bible doesn't say he was. I think Adam and Eve definitely told all they knew about the Lord God, and their time in the garden of Eden to their sons and daughters. [Please note that God even spoke with Cain in Genesis 4.] But talking the talk, and walking the walk aren't the same thing. I'm not trying to "judge" Adam, but another thing just crossed my mind. It wasn't until after Seth gave birth to Enosh that it says "then men began to call on the name of the Lord" (4:26). Adam would have been about 235 years old at that time, when men "began" to call upon the name of the Lord. Was Adam among them? I don't know. But I guess I can't assume that he was for two reasons. 1)The Bible doesn't say he was; and 2)after having a walking/talking relationship with God in the garden, he apparently did not "call on His name" after leaving the garden which was AT LEAST the first 150 years they lived outside the garden. |
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4 | Did Adam die lost? | Genesis | vacindak | 12981 | ||
Seth is the child I was refering to. Christ was supposed to be a substitution for the sins of the world, and as I recall, Adam and Eve believed that Seth might have been the Messiah (bit premature, but that seems to be what they thought). As for the assumption that Adam was saved, I'm not saying that. I'm merely saying that I think that there is a strong possibility that by naming his child what he did, that he was faithfully looking forward to the coming of the Messiah. However, at the same time, I generally, don't like to judge one way or the other on whether a person is saved or not, regardless of if it's a person who's still alive or somebody, like in Adam's case, who's been dead for thousands of years. At least in the case of someone who's still alive, if you assume a person is saved, and you are wrong, you may have forfeited a chance to share the gospel and greatly affected that person's life in eternity. Even if the person eventually does become saved, they still lost valuable time which could have been spent truely serving our Lord, just because you didn't talk to them or even pray for them. And conversely, by assuming a person is not saved because of their actions (yes, I'm aware that they should be showing fruit, but hear me out), you can alienate not only that person but other people as well if you share that doubt in a person's salvation with another person. Instead, pray for the person and try to spend time talking with the person about what the Lord means to them. That topic of conversation will almost always reveal the truth. As for guys that have been dead for millenia... honestly, does it affect your life one way or the other besides satifying curiousity? |
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5 | Did Adam die lost? | Genesis | There | 13000 | ||
I suppose I should let this drop since you seem to be a bit bored with the subject, but I want to make a short comment. I heard that too about Seth. But that doesn't seem to be what the Bible says. Genesis 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, 'For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed.'" They didn't name him Seth because they thought he was the Messiah, nor a substitute for sin, but because they saw him as a substitute for Abel. It sounded good to me at the time though too. :) God bless. |
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