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1	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38390
	Joe; EdB corrected me. So at this time I would like to first of all apologize to you and all others in this forum. It wasn't my intention to purposely mis-quoted anyone. I am not the type of person that would do that intentionally. So I am going to withdraw my presence completely from this forum God bless
2	John MacArthur an antinomian?!?	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38388
	EdB; My false accusation definitely was not made intentionally, so that leaves only one choice left. I don't intentionally try to misrepresent anyone. I will apologize and withdraw from the forum Thanks EDB God richly bless and keep thee zach†
3	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38383
	Joe; I had the book. I read the book, and saved the quote I found in it to a file I have. I no longer have the book.I donated it to a church library. If someone does have the book, I would appreciate it if someone who does possess the book would quote not only what I posted, but also all that precedes that quote, plus any information that comes after it, and then let us see for ourselves. No one here has actually posted anything from the book except for me. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach†
4	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38379
	EDB; Could you please post in more detail the actual words from the book which you found? I would appreciate it. Thanks zach†
5	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38377
	kalo's The reason for my reply to your post was in response to a Charles Stanley quote that you posted. I took the liberty for not only you, but for other individuals who might come here and then be able to see what else Stanley says concerning "Eternal Security" Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach†
6	How sinful is "fallen away"?	Mark 4:16	zach†	38357
	Joe; With all due respect. McArthur was the man i once looked to whenever I had a question about a certain portion of Scripture. I believed that if anyone would have the correct answer, then McArthur would. For years I daily listened to his radio program, read hi books and visted his web-site at gty.org. I actually personally made an icon out of McArthur. So it's not as if I haven't read, listened to, or studied what McArthur says; It was after time as I continued reading McArthur along side my Bible that the errors in McArthur's teaching became apparent to me. I still think highly of much of what McArthur teaches. But when it comes to scripture McArthur sides with Calvinism which to many is scripture, but for those like myself who see Calvinism as man's teachings we have to choose whether we will or will not believe scripture when it disagrees with what man teaches. Thats the bottom line Joe. So please don't hang us because we don't agree with men. We do believe what scripture says Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach†
7	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38354
	Joe ok then prove it and when you do I will apologize and retract the quote
8	How sinful is "fallen away"?	Mark 4:16	zach†	38352
	Joe; In all sincerity; there is and has been a misunderstanding on this issue between those of the Reformed faith and those on the side of the Remonstrants. Whenever an Arminian trys to appeal to a Calvinist using scripture, we cannot help but get the sense that we are misunderstood, and the reply's we receive, indicate that many think that we believe that works maintain our salvation , even though we don't believe that. I never once mentioned works. What I have written is concerning "perseverance" and endurance which is scriptural. And endurance is perseverance. Also faith is a verb, and is not passive, we are to be pro-active in our faith. We are to pray, put on the full armor of God, we are to trust and obey, if you call that works, then I will remind you that even Scripure says: "faith without works is dead" James 2:20 that means life-less, less than saving faith, a dead non-existant faith is not a faith which can ever please God. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach†
9	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38349
	Joe; You asked; "The quote from MacArthur's book: was he citing his own beliefs or quoting someone else with whom he disagrees?" The quote is from McArthur The quote is not about someone he disagrees with The quote represents McArthurs own thoughts in the book which I mentioned. Please look it up, While your at it look up the following unScriptural quote from McArthur: "we have confidence that we cannot sin our way out of God's grace." page 336 The McArthur New Testament Commentary of Romans that sort of teaching gives license to antinomianism!!!!!!! Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach†
10	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38348
	Joe; No need to take offense. My reply was to kalos, but I welcome your response as well. Your accucastions of saying I am mis-representing McArthur for merely quoting him are uncalled for, since what i quoted was from him out of his book. John McArthur Jr. Is a great preacher, and I regard him highly, yet I don't think EVERYTHING he says is totally Bibical. I compare what McArthur says by what scripture says, not vice versa. Also John McArthur played a part in my receiving Christ Jesus as Savior and Lord, but as I continued to grow in the faith and as i continued to read and listen to McArthur some obvious Scriptural errors in his teaching became increasingly apparent. I believe that some of his teaching is denominational rather than scriptural as do many others besides myself. Nevertheless, the Bible is my final authority for all faith and practice. And if that means I must reject some teachings of men, then so be it.
11	How sinful is "fallen away"?	Mark 4:16	zach†	38335
	popdzl; I enjoyed your post but concerning the following statement in you post in which you said. "Unless we reach the level of faith on which Hebrews 6:4-6 speaks, we will never fall out of grace " Let me ask you; What level of faith is needed by an individual before it is unlikely for him/her to not fall out of grace? Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach†
12	How sinful is "fallen away"?	Mark 4:16	zach†	38333
	Joe; Putting our faith in Christ is not a stopping point, but is rather a starting point in the life of a believer. The idea of "let go and let God" has no scriptural basis. Consider the following; There is an eternal, and CONDITIONAL "if" in every consideration of eternal security. IF we walk in the light; IF that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son; IF any man draw back; IF a man abide not in me, he is cast forth; IF a man keep my saying: IF thou continue in His goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off: IF ye do these things, ye shall never fall; IF we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end; IF we endure; IF we deny Him, He also will deny us; IF we sin willfully..there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins; IF ye forsake Him, He will forsake you; ye are my friends IF ye do whatsoever I command you; IF ye live after the flesh, ye shall die. He that endureth till the end, the same shall be saved. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things , ye shall never fall (2 Pet. 1:9-10) Concerning your second question: "How bad do we have to sin to fall out of grace?" I don't have the exact answer for that. All I can say is that while a single sin in the life of a believer isn't warrant for an individual to forfeit his/her salvation, continual persistence in willful sin Heb. 10:26 grieves the Holy Spirit, and if persisted in over time will harden the heart and result in quenching the Holy Spirit. Concerning your last question I believe scripture is very clear. The Scripture you used is clear that those who "have fallen away" cannot be "renewed" So that means that they once were renewed and cannot be again. I don't believe a person can be born again, and again, and again. This text says it is "impossible" to be renewed a second time. Once salvation is forfeited, after being saved the first time, there then is no second or third chance, seeing how these trampled under foot the Son of God, and regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace Heb 10:29 Hope that helps you understand my personal beliefs on this important matter . If not feel free to reply. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach†
13	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38331
	Joe; First of all I used the example of the "trinity" for those who find no scriptural base for the very real possibilty of a believer being able to forfeit his salvation. Secondly; I did not come up with the McArthur quote, which is his own, off the top of my head, to try to promote one doctrine over another. It is not my nature as a born-again believer in Christ to lie, or promote falsehood. I gave the source for anyone desiring to look it up. Not only McArthurs quote but Stanleys as well. There are two sides in this "eternal security" debate, and my intention is to make sure both sides are well represented. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach†
14	can you lose your salvation	Bible general Archive 1	zach†	38170
	Unscriptural Antinomianism quotes by "Eternal Security teachers; Now if you read the quotes below and agree with them and those that teach such error, then the Bible and Divine teaching must by necessity take a back-seat to human interpretation "believers who lose or abandon their faith will retain their salvation" (Charles Stanley) found on page 94 of his book: Eternal Security: Can You Be Sure? "When you are born again by the grace of Almighty God,...It doesn't make any difference how wicked and how vile you act." (Charles Stanley) (Eternal Security You Can Be Sure) (Part 2, Tape #4, RH190 "even those who walk away from the faith have not the slightest chance of slipping from His hand." (Charles Stanley) from page 74 of from his book; Eternal Security Can You Be Sure? "Even if a believer, becomes an unbeliever, his salvation is not in jeopardy." (Charles Stanley) from page 93 of his book: Eternal Security, Can You Be Sure? "You can sin like the devil down here and... you won't lose your salvation." (Charles Stanley) in his audio tape #3, MH190 "believers who become agnostics are still saved; they are still born again. You can even become an atheist; but if you once accepted Christ as saviour, you cannot lose your salvation, even though you deny God" as quoted in The Gospel According To Jesus by John F. MacArthur, p. 98, May God save us from accepting doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning. Quotes not found in the Bible: 1. Once saved always saved 2. Once in grace always in grace 3. Once a son, always a son
15	Depart from the faith	2 Thess 2:3	zach†	38167
	2 Thess. speaks of the great falling away or apostasy that will take place among individual Christian's as well as whole churches before the Lord's 2nd coming 2Thess. 2:1 ¶ Now we beseech you, brethren, by THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND [by] OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for [THAT DAY (meaning the day of the Lord's 2nd coming)], SHALL NOT COME EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, (Apostasy) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 1 Timothy 4:1 says In the latter times some SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH. I want to mention here that it is impossible for someone to depart from the faith unless they have first been in the faith. I cannot depart from Chicago unless I am first in Chicago. Just some scriptural food for thought
16	Fall away	Mark 4:16	zach†	38164
	They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for awhile believe, and in time of temptation FALL away. (Lk. 8:13 Mark 4:16-17) Fall in the above verse is the greek word aphistemi, which means to depart, or apostatize from ones once held profession of faith. In the above verse notice: 1. they hear the word 2. they receive the word with joy 3. But they have no root (this refers merely to the shallowness of their faith, or lack of depth) 4. They believe for awhile 5. Then FALL away (they don’t endure to the end) However they were believers for a time who did become apostates
17	Can a believer lose his salvation?	Luke 8:13	zach†	38163
	Concerning Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for awhile believe, and in time of temptation FALL away. (Lk. 8:13 Mark 4:16-17) Fall in the above verse is the greek word aphistemi, which means to depart, or apostatize from ones once held profession of faith. In the above verse notice: 1. they hear the word 2. they receive the word with joy 3. But they have no root (this refers merely to the shallowness of their faith, or lack of depth) 4. They believe for awhile 5. Then FALL away (they don’t endure to the end) However they were believers for a time who did become apostates
18	Who's the one Lamech had killed?	Gen 4:23	zach†	38155
	Greetings Scandinavian Disciple; While I know of no text in the cannozied books of the Bible that would make us conclude without a doubt that Cain was killed by Lamech, the unCannonized book of Jasher indicates that Cain indeed was the person that Lamech slew. However the book of Jasher is mentioned in the Bible. Garce and peace be multiplied unto thee zach†
19	"Once Saved Always Saved"	NT general Archive 1	zach†	38124
	Dear kalos; Your were correct to state that loose salvation and lost salvation cannot be found using search. However, "eternal security" "once saved, always saved" and "once in grace, always in grace" likewise cannot be found in doing a scriptural word search. We could also say the word "trinity" is not in scripture, but nevertheless is implied by scripture, therefore we believe in it. grace be multiplied unto thee. zach†
20	Hebrews 6:6 explained	NT general Archive 1	zach†	37789
	Greetings lonelyblue12; Heb. 6:6 NASB says: and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame. This verse along with Heb. 6:4-6 was spoken to Jewish Christian's who had become convert's to Christianity from Judiaism, and is a warning for them to not forfeit their Christian faith in Christ Jesus. Although this was a warning to these Jewish Christian's (Messianic Jews) in particular, this is also a warning for all Christian's in all times, not to depart from the faith. You can also go to the "Quick Search" feature and type in Heb. 6:4 or to the "Questions on verses and type in either Heb. 6:4 or Heb. 6:6 and find more on this hotly debated topic. Grace and peace be multiplied zach†

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