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1 | Are we Stupid or Lazy? Our Soul at stak | Rom 14:12 | ne14pool | 89717 | ||
George, You asked, Are we Stupid or Lazy? Then you went on to say, "Oh, but I don't understand what I read? Are you Stupid?" I agree there are many people who may not be very sharp or have the desire to study the Word of God. But where does one's intellegence come from? And those who do have the desire to study God's Word - where did that desire come from? I believe it is the grace of God that gives us wisdom and the desire to read His Word. These things are a gift. For we are told in 1 Cor 4:7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? So we can't boast if we have spiritual wisdom or even a desire to read His Word. Then in 1 Cor 1:31 it says, Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." The motive as to why we read the Word of God is also extremely important. We may read the Word of God to gain more understanding so we can better defend our positions in forum's like this one. But shouldn't we really be reading the Word of God for the sole purpose to better understand God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and to better understand and see ourselves reflected in His Holy Word. Some times our knowledge can puff us up and cause us to look down on those who are not as learned. So use caution when labeling someone as stupid, or lazy. Remember what Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3, He said,"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." Literal meaning of born again is "born from above". Remember also what Jesus told the Jews in John 5:39. He said, "You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me..." I don't know about you, but I often reflect the things you are speaking of. I am often lazy when it comes to prayer. I don't pray as often as I should and I may be slow of mind far more often than I care to be. But I am thankful that God has revealed to me my weaknesses, because He is able to take them and strengthen them for His Glory. Amen? In Christ...Doug |
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2 | Are we Stupid or Lazy? Our Soul at stak | Rom 14:12 | ne14pool | 89718 | ||
George, You asked, Are we Stupid or Lazy? Then you went on to say, "Oh, but I don't understand what I read? Are you Stupid?" I agree there are many people who may not be very sharp or have the desire to study the Word of God. But where does one's intellegence come from? And those who do have the desire to study God's Word - where did that desire come from? I believe it is the grace of God that gives us wisdom and the desire to read His Word. These things are a gift. For we are told in 1 Cor 4:7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? So we can't boast if we have spiritual wisdom or even a desire to read His Word. Then in 1 Cor 1:31 it says, Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." The motive as to why we read the Word of God is also extremely important. We may read the Word of God to gain more understanding so we can better defend our positions in forum's like this one. But shouldn't we really be reading the Word of God for the sole purpose to better understand God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and to better understand and see ourselves reflected in His Holy Word. Some times our knowledge can puff us up and cause us to look down on those who are not as learned. So use caution when labeling someone as stupid, or lazy. Remember what Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3, He said,"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." Literal meaning of born again is "born from above". Remember also what Jesus told the Jews in John 5:39. He said, "You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me..." I don't know about you, but I often reflect the things you are speaking of. I am often lazy when it comes to prayer. I don't pray as often as I should and I may be slow of mind far more often than I care to be. But I am thankful that God has revealed to me my weaknesses, because He is able to take them and strengthen them for His Glory. Amen? In Christ...Doug |
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3 | Please provide responses to these verses | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89566 | ||
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Of coarse, I do believe this scripture (as in all scripture) and it does not contradict what I was stating. We are commanded to repent, that doesn't deny that God must first grant us the ability to repent. Nor does it imply that those who don't repent won't still be held accountable for their unwillingness to repent. Because both statements are true. One person receives God's mercy the other receives God's wrath, both will glorify God. That to is biblical (See Romans 9) God also commands us to be perfect? There is no way within ourselves that we can obey this command, but it does drive us to the cross of Christ, crying out for mercy. But is any man other than Christ perfect? No, we are not perfect. However, we are perfect in God's eyes because for those who have been given the gift of faith (the elect), he has credited the Righteousness of Christ to our account and will not hold his sins against us. Why? Because he has given us the gift of faith by which we receive His grace. Yes we have faith, but only because God has given it to us. We exercise the gift because we were regenerated and brought to life by His Holy Spirit working in our hearts. The result of begin brought to life by God's Spirit is that we will be convicted of our sins and will repent. These things are all a result of God's gifts, which include faith, and repentance. You quoted A.W. Tozer and I would also like to quote Tozer from the Pursuit of God where he said, I like what A.W. Tozer said in the book "The Pursuit of God" He was commenting on taking credit for accepting Christ; and said, "We pursue God because, and only because , He has first put an urge within us that spurs us to the pursuit. "No man can come to me, " said our Lord, "except the Father which hath sent me draw him, " and it is by this very prevenient drawing that God takes from us every vestige of credit for the act of coming. The impulse to pursue God originates with God, but the outworking of that impulse is our following hard after Him; and all the time that we are pursuing Him we are already in His hand." You asked me, "Did God do your repenting for you? Or did you personally need to repent of the sins you committed?" God granted to me the ability and the desire to repent. Yes, I repented, but only because God enabled me to. I can’t boast about "my" repentance. He regenerated me to life so that I could repent and believe. God brought me to life to believe and repent. Once I set my eyes upon Christ I could not resist Him. You also asked me my understanding of Hebrews 6:4-6. I think the important thing to pay attention to in this verse is the word "tasted". For Christ said in John 6:53-54 "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. This person that is spoken of in Hebrews 6 only "tasted" of Christ. Just as food, it doesn't actually become a part of you until you consume it. So it is with Christ. This person in Hebrews was only testing driving Christ (if you will). That is my understanding of this scripture. For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Heb. 6:4-6 NASB) |
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4 | Please provide responses to these verses | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89451 | ||
NC, You said, God does not do our repenting or believing for us. So let me get this straight, YOU muster up the ablility to repent and believe? That is interesting when Scripture clearly tells us in 2 Tim 2:25-26 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will. NOTICE: Who GRANTS them repentance? It is clear that God does. The word GRANT in the greek means... means to give. It is a gift of God. Who should I believe? I am sorry but I have to believe Scripture! Then read what Scripture says about whose work it is to believe... The Jews asked Jesus what THEY must do to do the works that God requires. Jesus response is very revealing. He did not answer what work they must do, but He told them what the work of God is. John 6:28-29 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?" Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." NOTICE: In order for us to believe it takes a work of God. Once again there is Phil 1:29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him, Granted means to receive as a gift of God's grace. You were given the faith to believe in Him. It is the gift of God. You didn't muster up your own faith. Please don't boast in YOUR faith before the Lord! Your faith is the work of God. Then you said, How then do you explain the fact that Judas who was numbered with the other 11 apostles was lost. In what sense is this verse true? Judas may have been numbered with the disciples, However, in John 13:18 Jesus made it clear that Judas was not one of his chosen ones. When he said, "I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill the scripture: 'He who shares my bread has lifted up his heel against me.' The Bible does not contridict itself. Scripture must be interpreted with Scripture. That is why eternal security and the perseverance of the Saints is clearly taught in the Bible. Yours in Christ...Doug PS... Isn't your user name, New Creature come from 2 Cor 5:17? If this is true then don't you believe what it says? Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! NOTICE: The old has GONE! That means GONE! Not to come back again! It touches on Eternal Security! Very interesting!! |
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5 | Please provide responses to these verses | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89315 | ||
NC, You won't be surprised that I totally disagree with Adam Clarke's exposition of John 15:6. It is clear Clarke interprets this judgement (casting into the fire) as the judgement for the sins of non-believers and those who could not muster up enough faith of their own. This is an unbiblical view and I totally disagree with this interpretation. As you are already aware, I believe this is the judgement of believers. It is not the judgement for their sins, but for their works. I think it is unfortunate that you feel that within yourself you had to do something to gain eternal life. You must believe this, if you feel you can do something to lose it. But eternal life is not YOUR work. It is the Work of God, within you. I have some challenges for you: I would like you to give me your perspective on the following verses which strongly support eternal security. Jer 32:40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me. NOTICE: ...so they will never turn away from me. What's your view on this verse? Here is another one for you: John 6:35-40 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAID, "I shall not lose none of them that he has given me"? Here is another verse that I would like to hear your views on: Jude 1:24 To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-- NOTE: To say that we can fall from grace is to say that God is not able to keep us from falling… That is unbiblical. It contradicts Jude 1:24. I look forward to your responses for the verses provided above. Thanks…. In Christ….Doug |
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6 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89044 | ||
NC, This was not my interpretation, but I agree with what it is expounding. However, I believe you're missing the main point of this article. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We have to read this verse in context. What is the topic of the first part of John 15? There is no doubt that the context is "bearing fruit", well we know that only Christians can bear true fruit that remains. I believe you are taking this verse out of context if you are attempting to make the topic suddenly change to salvation. That is not what is being discussed. The context is fruit bearing. Compare the first part of John 15 with 1 Cor 3:11-15 where it speaks again of good fruit and bad fruit... it says, "For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames." NOTICE: The that he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping THROUGH the flames. Even believers will pass through the consuming fire of God's judgement when it comes to our works. If they are wood, hay and stubble (a.k.a. bad fruit not done on the foundation of Christ) then they will be consumed and in the fire like a dead branch, however if they are gold, silver or costly stones they will not be consumed but will pass through the fire along with the individual who passes through the fire even if he didn't have any or much fruit, he will make it through the fire. That is scriptural and I want to warn you to seriously consider what is being said here. In Christ...Doug PS Please read my posting that was made Fri 07/11/03, at 2:37am. It may shed further light upon this topic. |
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7 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89022 | ||
New Creature, Further note in regards to John 15:6 speaking of destroying these branches: do you suppose he talking about the person or his bad fruit? I believe that he is talking about his fruit since this seems to be in line with the entire passage and in context with the topic which is about the branches that are "in Christ" and the main topic is bearing fruit. Verse 6 says, "If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned." I think it is important to remember that the one that is the gardner is the Father and if it is the Father that is gathering the branches and casting them into the fire, that seems to contradict John 5:22 that says...the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son. I think that if you read John 15:6 in contrast with 1 Cor 3:12-15 it makes a lot more sense. The passage says, "If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames." Notice that the he himself will be saved, but his (so-called) fruit was consumed. This fruit was the labor of his own flesh and it was not fruit that was done for the glory of God, but most likely it was done to be seen by man and for the glory of the man himself. We know that that man has received his reward. (Matt 6:16) John 15:6 can also be compared with Matt 5:13 where it says, "You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men." You have probably already considered all of these verses, but that is my take on this verse. I like how Pink ended his exposition on this verse with these heart searching words, He said....... "Here then is a most solemn warning and heart-searching prospect for every Christian. Either your life and my life is, as the result of continuous fellowship with Christ, bringing forth fruit to the glory of the Father, fruit which will remain; or, because of neglect of communion with Him, we are in immense danger of being set aside as His witnesses on earth, to bring forth only that which the fire will consume in a coming Day. May the Holy Spirit apply the words of the Lord Jesus to each conscience and heart." It is my prayer that when Christ does come back for us that He will he will find us faithful. Amen? In Christ....Doug |
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8 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89021 | ||
New Creature, I wanted to share with you a portion of an expostion by a great preacher who once wrote in reference to John 15:6... But what is meant by, "Men gather them, and cast into the fire, and they are burned"? Observe, first, the plural pronouns. It is not "men gather him and cast into the fire, and he is burned," as it would most certainly have been had an unbeliever, a mere professor, been in view. The change of number here is very striking, and evidences, once more, the minute accuracy of Scripture. "Unless any one abide in me, he is east forth as a branch, and men gather them and cast into the fire and they are burned." The "them" and the "they" are what issues from the one who has been cast forth "as a branch." And what is it that issues from such a one—what but dead works: "wood, hay, stubble"! and what is to become of his "dead works." 1 Corinthians 3:15 tells us: "If any man’s work shall be burned (the very word used in John 15:6!), he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." Lot is a pertinent example: he was out of fellowship with the Lord, he ceased to bear fruit to His glory, and his dead works were all burned up in Sodom; yet he himself was saved! In Christ...Doug |
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9 | What do you mean by "initiated"? | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 89020 | ||
New Creature, You said, "God authored and initiated your salvation". What do you mean that He "initiated" your salvation? Webster defines initiated as, to cause or facilitate the beginning of. Hebrews 12:2 tells us that Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, NOT the author and initiator of our faith. The actual greek work for finisher carries with it the meaning "completer". Then Jonah 2:9 tells us that Salvation is of the Lord? Then in John 6:37, Jesus said, "All that the Father gives me will come to me.." It doesn't say, "All the Father gives me will come to me if they decide in their own freewill to come to me, after God has initiated their faith. If that were the case then we would have something to boast about before God. We then could say to God when we meet him face to face, well you know God, I could have rejected you like my non-believing neighbor did, but I accepted you. Once again who made you different from the non-believer? Wasn't it God who opened your eyes and began and is finishing the work of faith in you. No where does scripture say that he grants faith to every person. God gives the gift of faith to only those that were given to Him by the Father. All that were given this faith WILL come to Him. Now if God is the author and finisher of our faith, then to say that someone could leave the faith is to say God didn't finish the work of faith begun in that person. That goes directly against Hebrew 12:2. How can you argue against Hebrews 12:2? How can you agrue against John 10:28-29 Where Jesus said, "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. You see, those GIVEN to Jesus can not perish, or be snatched out of Jesus hand, or snatched from the Father's hand. All the Father gives Jesus WILL come to Him. They will never be taken from Him, they are given ETERNAL life! Sorry I get very excited about this. It is an awesome comfort to know that I am Eternally secure. I pray that God will grant you that same comfort! For I know that it is not I or any other man that can "convince" you of that salvation can NOT be forfeited. But it will be the Holy Spirit of God that will convince you using his Word. I am certain that if you would go back and review all the scripture references and the points that many have so clearly provided to you and you prayed that God would open your eyes to what is true about eternal security, then I believe God will open your eyes to this wonderful truth! The truth will then set you free from the fear of losing your salvation. Secure in Christ...Doug |
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10 | Where did your faith come from? | Luke 8:13 | ne14pool | 88960 | ||
Hello New Creature, I was curious as to where you believe your faith in Christ came from? Is it your own faith you mustered up with God's help or was it given to you as a gift from God (Eph 2:8-9) Was it granted (given as a gift of God's grace) to you? (Phil 1:29) Just curious where you feel your faith comes from? Remember what Paul says in 1 Cor 4:7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? (NIV) Then also recall what it says in James 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. (NIV) If faith is a gift of God, then it came from Him. So I would be interested to know where you believe your faith came from? Now if you agree it was a act of God's grace to give you faith, by that faith God delivered to you his grace. Then our faith was the work of God and that can not fail. Since he is the author and finisher of our faith? He started the book of faith in our lives and he will finish it! Now if we did not do anything to earn this faith, then we can do nothing to lose it. But if we truely possess this saving faith, then how could we possibly do anything to lose it, when we did nothing to gain it? In Christ...Doug |
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11 | Doesn't this seem like a contradiction? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88496 | ||
Tim, The way I see it is, all God needs to do for Pharaoh to do evil is to remove his hand of grace upon Pharaoh and guess what - Pharaoh will do what comes natural to him. He will do that which is contrary to the Spirit of God. So for God to harden any heart, all he has to do is to move his hand of grace away and the heart will harden. So I really don't see it as a contradiction, but as God moving away his grace and allowing Pharaoh to do what his wicked heart will naturally do. Does this make sense? This does not remove Pharaohs responsiblity. His still will be held accountable to God for his actions. Because for anyone to do any good, God must move in the individuals heart to cause him to do good. All of this to His glory. Even Pharaoh's wrath bring's God praise. For we know that the wrath of man brings God glory for it says in Ps 76:10 "Surely the wrath of man shall praise You; with the remainder of wrath You shall gird Yourself." (NKJ) In Christ...Doug |
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12 | Regeneration proceeds Faith? | Not Specified | ne14pool | 88409 | ||
Can anyone provide me with some Scripture verses that support the doctrine that regeneration proceeds faith? | ||||||
13 | Regeneration proceeds Faith? | Bible general Archive 1 | ne14pool | 88439 | ||
Can anyone provide me with some Scripture verses that support the doctrine that regeneration proceeds faith? | ||||||
14 | Are those drawn 2 Christ raised to life? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88408 | ||
Tim, You had said, that If Christ did not draw, no one could be saved. Which I agree with. Then you went on to quote John 12:32 which says that Christ will draw all men to Himself when He is lifted up. Which I interpret to mean men of "all types" (Jew and Gentile) not all men individually but collectively. I say that because if you believe that Christ draws all men to himself, then all men must be saved because in John 6:44 Jesus proclaimed that "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. Notice that same one that is drawn by the Father is also raised up on the last day. Keep in mind the context of this verse, it is salvation. So if you hold to the belief that God draws all men (individually to himself, then you must also believe that those that are drawn will be raised to eternal life with God (John 6:44) In Christ...Doug |
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15 | Doesn't this seem like a contradiction? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88397 | ||
Tim, Thanks for posting these verses. From these verses it appears that both God and Pharaoh harden Pharaoh's heart? Seems like a contradiction. Doesn't it? In Christ...Doug |
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16 | Who hardened Pharaoh's heart? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88396 | ||
Hank, Just because I am asking for your view on this issue doesn't imply that I feel you are ignorant or naive. By no means. I truly am seeking information on what you believe regarding the hardening of Pharoah's heart? Please share with me your view. Thanks.. | ||||||
17 | Who hardened Pharaoh's heart? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88301 | ||
Hank, I have a question for you. Who hardened Pharaoh's heart? Was it God or was it Pharaoh himself? In Christ...Doug |
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18 | Was it our choice to be born physically? | Rev 13:8 | ne14pool | 88300 | ||
Tim, In your response, you mentioned that you can not choose where to be born. How true! Not only did we not play a role in where we would be born, but we didn't play a role in our birth. The same principle that applies to our physical birth also applies to our spiritual birth. It was not our choice, but God choose us to be born of the Spirit! Just as Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3. Jesus declared to him "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." (born from above) Nicodemus took Jesus literally and asked, "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. God determined that we would be born spiritually, it was no more our choice that it was our choice to be physically born. That is why Jesus said to his disciples in John 15:16. You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit-- fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Then in John 1:12-13 it says "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. Note: Not a human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. Then in speaking of the Sovereignty of God in choosing who he will, it says in Rom 9:16 "It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy." It wasn't your desire or effort to seek God. But it was God who by His Spirit caused you to be born from above and he caused your Spirit to awake from the dead and He opened your eyes to the truth. Then we beheld Christ and His wonderful work upon the Cross and we believe the good news of what he did for us. While we thought it was our faith we mustered up, all the while it was God that was working in us to draw us to Himself. Because we were enabled by God to come to Christ. We were the love gift that was given to Christ before the foundation of the World. Once we were awaken by God spiritually we then fixed our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him (that is us - His bride) endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. I don't mean to ramble on, but I couldn't help in when you mentioned we don't choose our place of birth... That comment triggered all this... Take care and may God continue to bless you richly! In Christ...Doug |
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19 | confusion with Acts 5:1 | Heb 13:8 | ne14pool | 88298 | ||
Dan, Good question! It does seem like a harse judgement from our perspective, but I believe God was setting a presidence. Have you heard the saying "Nip it in the bud"? Well recognize the Church was in it's infancy and God wanted to make sure that everyone took it very seriously what it means to lie to God (Holy Spirit). Can you imagine the reaction of the Church, well it is described in Acts 5:11, where it says that "Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events." Do you think that was a deterent the next time someone thought about holding back something that is promised to God? I am sure it was. You will find a similar story in Lev. 10 in the OT. Where it seems from our perspective that God treated Aaron's son's harshly, not at all. Dan, one thing you always must keep in mind, when you mention being in the post-Jesus time. If you read the book of Revelation you will discover that when Christ returns, He is returning as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. There is a whole lot of Justice that is going to be served when he returns. He came the first time as innocent as a Lamb to be our sacrafice, but when he returns in Judgement he will be the Lion of the tribe of Judah. It is true that God is Love, but never, never forget that He is also Just and must punish all sins. Thank God that He has already punished the sins of those who have placed ALL their trust in Him for their salvation and have been given Christ's Righteousness so we will not have to endure the Wrath of God! Heb 10:31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. In Christ...Doug |
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20 | confusion with Acts 5:1 | Heb 13:8 | ne14pool | 88297 | ||
Dan, Good question! It does seem like a harse judgement from our perspective, but I believe God was setting a presidence. Have you heard the saying "Nip it in the bud"? Well recognize the Church was in it's infancy and God wanted to make sure that everyone took it very seriously what it means to lie to God (Holy Spirit). Can you imagine the reaction of the Church, well it is described in Acts 5:11, where it says that "Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events." Do you think that was a deterent the next time someone thought about holding back something that is promised to God? I am sure it was. You will find a similar story in Lev. 10 in the OT. Where it seems from our perspective that God treated Aaron's son's harshly, not at all. Dan, one thing you always must keep in mind, when you mention being in the post-Jesus time. If you read the book of Revelation you will discover that when Christ returns, He is returning as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. There is a whole lot of Justice that is going to be served when he returns. He came the first time as innocent as a Lamb to be our sacrafice, but when he returns in Judgement he will be the Lion of the tribe of Judah. It is true that God is Love, but never, never forget that He is also Just and must punish all sins. Thank God that He has already punished the sins of those who have placed ALL their trust in Him for their salvation and have been given Christ's Righteousness so we will not have to endure the Wrath of God! Heb 10:31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. In Christ...Doug |
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