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1 Third Heaven, Inexpressable Things? 2 Cor 12:2 arrow1 117582
  In 2 Cor 12:2, what is the third heaven, and what were the inexpressable things he heard?
2 When were Apostles saved? Acts 11:15 arrow1 116597
  Did the Spirit falling on the Apostles at Pentecost have the exact same purpose as it did when it fell on Cornelius and his household? In other words, were the Apostles saved before or after the Spirit fell on them?

(refer to question from 2-27-04, 3:34pm)

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3 Where does it say that? NT general Archive 1 arrow1 116296
  ischus,

Where does it say faith must precede repentance,(I'm not saying it doesn't, just show me a verse)?
where does it say baptism comes "way" after all of these? where does it say baptism is a commitment made to God?, verses please.

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4 Isn't that what you just said? NT general Archive 1 arrow1 115285
  If repentance is a synonym for faith then isn't it also a requirement, you believe Acts 2:38 says repent for the forgiveness of sins, so how can it not be a requirement. 2 Corinth. 7:10 and Acts 3:19 seem to say it's required.

Also, why can't baptism be a conditon for salvation if viewed as a synonym for faith. Couldn't "saving faith" simply be obeying the command to be "baptized for the forgiveness of sins" ???
5 What can we do to have salvation NT general Archive 1 arrow1 115281
  Colin, yes it is necessary.
Acts 3:19, Acts 11:18, Luke 24:47, 2 Corinth. 7:10
6 How many in upper room?? Bible general Archive 2 arrow1 115277
  to Aspiring Overseer:
I too am a Financial Advisor, send me an email sometime at tbolson76@hotmail.com
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7 2nd ? Did Spirit save them? Bible general Archive 2 arrow1 115266
  I didn't mean the "sole" purpose was to give the ability to speak in tongues, but definitely ushering in the new church and confirming God's word with power was a major part of it.

As to Romans 8:7, Ananias and Sapphira were Christians and they were hostile to God, they lied to the Holy Spirit and God struck them dead.
Simon,(Acts chapter 8) a Christian, tried to buy the Gift of the Spirit from Peter, and Peter said his heart was not right before God and that he was full of bitterness and captive to sin.

That seems to point out two examples of Christians (someone who was saved and had the "indwelling of the Spirit"), and were hostile to God.

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8 2nd ? Did Spirit save them? Bible general Archive 2 arrow1 115165
  2nd question, When the Holy Spirit fell on the apostles at pentecost, was that to save them or just to give them the ability to speak in tongues?
If it was just to give the ability, then, obviously they were already saved.
9 How many in upper room?? Bible general Archive 2 arrow1 115105
  I'd like to throw in a question. At pentecost how many were in the upper room, 12 apostles or the 120??........also did the holy spirit fall on just the twelve apostles or on the 120.???
10 What was purpose of spirit falling?? Bible general Archive 1 arrow1 115100
  At Pentecost, did the holy spirit fall on the 12 apostles in order to save them or were they already saved??
11 what is baptism Bible general Archive 1 arrow1 115083
  you are mistaken, being baptized in water is exactly how you are making the pledge, and it is effective because of the resurrection of christ
12 Water baptism unnecessary for conversion Acts 2:38 arrow1 114450
  I believe the reason was to show that the Gospel was now open to the Gentiles, of course they would decide for themselves whether to accept or reject it, as is everyone's perrogative.
13 Did you know Campbell was not baptized? Acts 2:38 arrow1 114445
  The gentlemen who wrote the Nicene Creed in 325 AD
also believed in "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins" as did all(as far as I can tell) of the early church fathers. One of the best books on this subject is "Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up" by David Bercot.
The sinner's prayer and altar calls are only 200 years old and were unknown prior to that time, which is why I question those beliefs.
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ps I never said I was a member of COC or ICOC.
14 Water baptism unnecessary for conversion Acts 2:38 arrow1 114444
  My view, which not all agree with is that it died out with the apostles. Speaking in tongues and prophecy were powerfull symbols and helped usher in the new church. Once the church was established and we had the teachings of the apostles which were handed down by word of mouth and by letter, those gifts were no longer needed(1 Corinth. 13:8-10).
arrow1, but that's just my view, I'll agree it's a tough subject...........
15 Is page 58 a problem? 2 Tim 3:16 arrow1 114425
  Does anyone have a problem with Page 58 in this book, and why or why not?
Thanks, arrow1
16 Water baptism unnecessary for conversion Acts 2:38 arrow1 114341
  Yes we are all equal in that God loves us all equally, the gospel is to be preached to all, and we all have the right to accept or reject it.

The whole point of that story is "mainly" that up until that time the gospel was only preached to the Jews and now it was open to Gentiles as well.
Read the context of the entire story. The jewish christians were really "struggling" with allowing Gentiles into the church. It was a BIG deal. Hence Peter's dream and God doing something really miraculous just like at Pentecost.

I asked the question before, did the Holy Spirit save the 12 apostles at Pentecost or were they already saved?

Again, Gal. 3:26-27, they were "baptized into Christ".
17 please respond? Acts 2:38 arrow1 114340
  Sorry, I was simply responding to morant61........
18 Water baptism unnecessary for conversion Acts 2:38 arrow1 114339
  You are incorrect. The ICOC does use musical instruments. There are many traditional churches of christ. Some use musical instruments, and there are also many that don't. That was one doctrine I never really agreed with. It seems like one of those minor disputable matters which Christians could agree to disagree on.

It is a bit of a connundrum, Efree has infant dedication and Luth. baptizes infants, neither of which has scriptural examples. The two I attend happen to be the two fastest growing churches in Des Moines right now.

1)Catholics adhere to baptismal regeneration
2)Evangelicals have the sinners prayer and faith alone
3)and then there is adult repentance and baptism into Christ.

To me those are three distintly different doctrines. It's hard to believe that they are all correct at the same time. If you pick one, it seems you're condemning the others all to hell.

That makes hell pretty crowded. I have personal friends in all three camps. They are all equally dedicated to and in love with the Lord. I admit I do struggle with that.

Maybe I'm still searching a little myself.
sincerely, arrow1
19 Did you know Campbell was not baptized? Acts 2:38 arrow1 114338
  He was the founder of the/a (traditional) church of christ. Kip McKean founded the ICOC. Yes, I have read that. Not sure what that has to do with me though. I do not look up to Campbell or McKean or say Martin Luther for example as some great historical theologian. I do agree with "some" of their ideas on doctrine, etc.
20 arrow1, what is your demonination? Acts 2:38 arrow1 114337
  searcher56, not sure what you mean by ?withdrawn,
missed answer.............??
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