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1 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134549
  Dear Brother.

I will be the first to admit that I need some help. It is those who refuse to admit this, whom are most at risk.

Gb
2 Question for Glory Bound Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134540
  Ed

I am who I am. Neither now, nor have I ever claimed to be anyone other.

I wonder though, are there not many herein depicted in your note?

Do you consider me a criminal because I defend what I have learned in scripture, or because you disagree with how, or what I advocate?

Are you so offended by one who rocks your boat that you would consider me one whom you apparently hated in times past?

When have I "called another honored member of this forum a non Christian?"

As I suspected, you rally to the support of your friend, rather than admit that he may have been wrong.

I rebuked this person when he was in the wrong. He then chose to take offense, and proceeded to attack my very next post in every sort available. I begged this person not to drag me into such a godless conversation. He refused, and was then joined by others such as yourself. He then chose to nit pick my profile. You did the same.

If this is what you consider "how a Christian is to act," then I can only pray for you and your friends. I will not, however continue to allow them to drag me into their Godless splutter.

I come to this forum to learn, and hopefully to share my gift. It is apparent that there are those herein who profess, yet have no desire to adhere to scripture. So be it. This is there decision. I cannot, nor do I intend to attempt to change them. I only ask for the same respect, which has been refused me thus far.


GB
3 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134537
  Considering what I have stated in my profile, this is the wrong place for your post.

I refuse to believe that anyone is daft enough to even imply that I have said anything of the sort, in this thread or elsewhere. But then, considering some of the other assertions, implications and accusations, I am not surprised.

GB
4 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134534
  Hi Searcher
Though it appears that most seem to think I am saying this, No, I am not saying this. I have not said this.

I cannot understand why these folks are so enraged by what it is that I have said.

Please tell me where the NIV and KJV, in your opinion "disagree."

GB
5 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134531
  Well Ed. Would you not recommend that, considering the many uninspired versions, a new convert tread carefully. I simply make my statements, which you quote based on my personal experience, research and discernment. Do I not have this right without enraging the ravening wolves?

Does the word "inspired" eliminate what a particular individual might consider "less than perfect?" i.e. There is at least one occurrence in the King James in which the word "son" is used. In having studied that particular passage, and considering the meaning of the Greek word, I personally feel that the word "children" would be more appropriate. This is not what I consider an error, for literally, the word could have been translated either way.

Ed, I asked not to be dragged into this discussion from the very beginning of the thread.
I am growing very weary concerning this matter. I doubt the sincerity of those who insist on continuing.

I fail to see a true motive, other than resentment.

I apologize if I portray myself as something, which offends so many herein. It is by the authority of the very scripture, which my opponents question, that I stand by what I have stated. Thus I make no apologies for the essence of my statements.

Please forgive me when I do not answer questions, which are superfluous, redundant and, or have already been answered.

This is my last correspondence with you concerning this matter, Ed. You too can continue to rant and rave without rebuttal, if it is in your nature as well.

GB
6 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134521
  My conversations with you are ended Hank.
You can have the last word.
Rant and Rave on...

GB
7 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134520
  You want scripture Brad?

Consider 2Ti 2:16 and 2Ti 3:7. This seems to depict those who continue to insist on arguing this point. But then, why should I quote scripture those who do not believe in its inspiration?

I make no claim of wisdom. I judge not. But by the authority of the Living Word of God All Mighty, I know what is and is not of Him. He has given me His word, just as He has you.

If this gives me an “appearance of superiority,” so be it. Those who consider themselves inferior only see another as superior. I profess only what is mine by the authority of the Living Word, the authority of which seems to be in question in this particular thread,
If those who profess to know scripture cannot understand the truth of my “rather glowing generalities”, perhaps they should take a closer look at their attempt to live what it is they profess to know.

Through faith, discernment and the Holy Spirit, I choose to accept the inspiration of some translations. By this same “faith, discernment and Holy Spirit, I choose not to accept the lack of inspiration of other translations.” I neither need, nor do I attempt to provide the “proof,” which those of little faith insist on.

Those who call themselves Christians, yet insist on “proof” concerning my avocation, that particular versions are inspired, might be asked, “by what authority do you know what it is that you profess?”

Truth is the Word. If one doubts the authority of the word, what does this say concerning his truth?

GB
8 Question for Glory Bound Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134514
  HANK. I HAVE BEGGED YOU NOT TO DRAW ME INTO SUCH A GODLESS DISCUSSION AS WHAT YOU HAVE TURNED THIS MATTER INTO.

If you wish to go against what it is you profess, this is between you and our Lord. As for me, you can take your senseless insistence on quarreling the matter, and thus disgracing our Lord, up with the mirror, or perhaps a telephone pole, for it appears that there would be little difference.

Insult me as you wish. I forgive you. I also pray your eyes will be opened before you soil the word more than you now insist on doing.

Tell everyone there is no inspired bible as you wish. It is you who will have to answer for your ignorance. Not I. The blood of those you turn aside will be on your head. Not mine. .

May God Bless and have mercy on you, Hank.
Evil as you are portraying yourself to me, I know there is something there worth loving. And I do love you, and all who would be mislead and turned aside from scripture due to your hardheaded insistence.

As to the proof you insist on Hank. I expect Christ felt just as sad performing His miracles and speaking the truth to those who refused to see and hear, as I am, concerning your senseless refusal to see, your insistence on continuing the argument, and refusal to accept my answer for the truth it is.
I cannot make you see Hank. I cannot open your eyes. I can only make you aware.

GB
9 Question for Glory Bound Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134509
  So Ed, I expect you and the rest of those who refuse to see and understand what it is I have been stating, would recommend that we simply discard our bibles.

For those who cannot reconise what I have been stating, I will put it as plain as it can be put.

NO ONE has the originally inspired scriptures. You know this as well as I. But you can't tell me that our Lord did not consider this fact concerning His word, or that He has not inspired some of the translators of “some” versions; OR that the enemy has not taken this opportunity to dilute the Living Word.

If those folks who insist on arguing with me concerning this matter, understood the word "faith," perhaps they could understand what I have been saying. Or is it that they simply enjoy quarreling. From the way the wolves seem to have come out of their corners to attack me concerning this matter, I strongly suspect the latter.

The attitudes of those responding thus far concerning this topic perplexes me, for I had thought very highly of many who insist on attacking my stance on this matter. Why the attacks? Because one of their own, who cannot accept rebuke, chose to go on the offensive concerning a matter that can only be contrary to the very essence of scripture.

If they cannot understand what it is I am saying concerning the inspiration of “some” versions of scripture, I would attest that perhaps, though they are into scripture, scripture has yet to get into them. Perhaps this is due to the fact that, when it comes right down to the bottom line, they do not trust the very words they profess. They have no foundation. Considering the stance they have taken against my profession, what other conclusion am I to assume?

As yet, there is at least one more person in this forum whom I have grown to love and respect, who has not added to the conversation. When he does, if his attitude concerning the matter is the same as the many thus far, I will wipe the dust of this forum off my feet. Hopefully though, there is at least one herein who does more than just profess and will perhaps prove it with his comments, should he decide to lower himself to the level of participating.


Your brother in Christ.
GB
10 Question for Glory Bound Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134435
  mommapbs, Surely you can see what I have stated!!!

GB
11 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134434
  Most lean solely on their knowledge, and that of others. I am not saying this is wrong, but I can't help but to think what scripture says concerning mans wisdom and learning.

I agree with you concerning the Living Bible, and your distaste for Zondervan, but if you will note, I have not mentioned a single version, which I consider unworthy.
Though at least one person in this forum would have it otherwise, I have no intention of opening such a can of worms concerning this matter.

I use the NIV, copywrited 1984. I do not care for Zondervan either, nor their other versions. As stated in my profile, I also use the KJV and Interlinear Hebrew, Greek and English Versions of scripture, along with various other versions, commentaries and such. My soul dependency concerning the Word though, is the Holy Spirit, faith, discernment, adherence to scripture, and other numerous gifts available to those who would just, shut their mouth, and open their heart to them.

It is a fact that someone can and will find something wrong with whatever version anyone uses. To those who can see, it is also a fact that, this is another ploy of Satan, and that if, as I have stated previously, one is sincere and adheres to 2 Timothy 2:15, they will develop a spiritual discernment that appears to be non existent with anyone I have thus far discussed this topic with on this forum.

Satan knows he can’t add to or take from scripture. He has tried that and failed many times. The multitude of various new “versions” is his latest ploy.

Personally, I would recommend that anyone who understands 16th century English proficiently, stick to the KJV. I don’t. When I determined to learn scripture, I didn’t even know that there was anything other than the KJV. I told the Lord, “Surely there is something out there that I can understand better than KJ.” He showed me the NIV right after it was published in its entirety in the 70’s.

I have scrutinized the NIV; and in doing so, through comparison to the best and most available of the “translated scrolls,” which I have been able to acquire, found many discrepancies in the KJV. Neither are perfect. Neither are perfect. Neither are perfect. Nor am I, yet. But I am well on my way to perfection, and thank God, I am Glory Bound!

Unfortunately, there just aren’t enough originals to go around where scripture is concerned. I have no doubt that our Lord has considered this fact. One has to exercise a thing called faith, in the matter. It is those who doubt that I am concerned with. I would assert that it is those who profess, yet doubt, that should be concerned the most.

Such a topic can easily dissuade the babes in Christ. It is apparent that meat of this word chokes many who profess to be more mature. As for those who have a problem in digesting what I say, I would suggest they go back to the milk of scripture. IF, of course, they can find faith enough to believe in whatever version they would choose.

As I have stated, I am confident that the Word in which I trust, is inspired. I’d be as miserable as some appear, who wish to argue the matter with me, if I weren’t.

God Bless
GB


12 Question for Glory Bound Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134418
  I have already answered this question.
As to those who CAN NOT, or WILL NOT understand and adhere to THE WORD; It is understandable that they will not understand my words.

Once again Hank. This discussion is closed between you and me. I beg you not to carry it on.

GB
13 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134417
  Call it what you will Hank. Scripture labels it "adherence."

I should think that you would remember what you quote so often. The TOS.

Dear brother, have you never read 2Ti 2:16, “But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.”

Or is it your desire to quarrel with me?

Is it your desire to reveal that which you have only partially concealed in your notes concerning this subject?

GB
14 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134415
  "Personally I am lead by the Holy Spirit concerning the Word. Anyone who is sincere concerning their study, and adheres to 2 Timothy 2:15 can discern the difference."


No more than one can "prove" the absolute truths therein; none can prove their version inspired.

"Seek and ye shall find." I have found, as I stated, that the NIV and KJV are INSPIRED TRANSLATIONS. I have also found, as stated, that there are some "so called" translations, which are no more than tools of the enemy. Why this statement seems to have enraged some, is beyond me. Perhaps they have not taken the interest in scrutinizing their translation, as I have mine.

Though I have studied scripture for over 30 yrs, I am not a scholar, nor did I document the many paths and countless hours, weeks, months and years it took me to reach my conclusion. Thus, the best I can tell you BradK, is that if you too will diligently seek what scripture promises, you too will receive what scripture promises. But you must first adhere to 2 Timothy 2:15.

Strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

To develop Spiritual discernment, one must first:

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2Ti 2:15 – 16

GB
15 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134412
  As I previously stated Hank, “I resent the tone” in which you originally asked your questions. Considering the tone of your response, it is apparent that I did not misread your original tone. And considering the fact that I have reciently rebuked you, I strongly suspect you are one who holds a grudge and cannot accept constructive criticism.

Under more friendly circumstances, I would be more than happy to answer your questions in more detail than I did in my last note. (Re-read it Hank, You will see that I did answer your question, in my 1st paragraph. If you do not agree with my answer, then perhaps I have given you more credit than deserved.) Or, are you a Scientologist who insists on physical proof?

I have no intention of quarreling with you dear brother, nor do I have any inclination to answer to you.

This conversation is closed.

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you dear brother.

GB
16 If you live right, you are rewarded? 1 John 1:9 Glory Bound 134338
  I have often thought of the term "double negative" concerning such. It seems it may apply here.

Sin graves the Holy Spirit. Thus it cannot possibly please God when a believer is disobedient. I would think that the only thing pleasing about it would be the believer’s faithful dependency on His son for success against sin.

GB
17 How many times did satan say I will KJV Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134337
  Didn't he say it a couple times in the NT when he tried to entice the Lord?

GB
18 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134335
  Why is it Hank, that I sense hostility in your words?

Personally I am lead by the Holy Spirit concerning the Word. Anyone who is sincere concerning their study, and adheres to 2 Timothy 2:15 can discern the difference. I think you know this as well as I do.

Do you make the claim that ALL translations are equal?

I stated in my profile, “I use the KJV, NIV and Interlinear Hebrew, Greek and English Versions of scripture. My Electronic References are provided by eSword, which in my opinion is to scripture what Windows is to the computer…” I also stated that some translations are no more than tools of the enemy. Do you profess that a child of God can not discern such, Hank?

I neglected to say that, included in my “electronic references” are dozens of Various Scriptural Translations. I made no statement as to which TRANSLATION of the Scriptures I considered not to be inspired, and Hank, frankly I resent your implication and tone.

I do not depend solely on mans knowledge. Neither should anyone who desires to know the truth concerning the Word. I reiterate the first statement in my profile. “I believe in the Word as "a whole" without the leaven of man. If I offend you, Hank, I am sorry, but don’t expect me to change just because you think I should. Isn’t this like the foot telling the hand how it should act?

I believe it was J. Vernon Magee who made the statement. “ You can graze on the pastures of others, but give your own milk. I say that, for those who don’t like fresh white milk; to each his own. Though I do like biscuits made from it, I don’t like buttermilk.

Hank, when you see or hear me state which TRANSLATIONS of the Scriptures are not inspired, you will see me provide enough scriptural proof to convince even yourself, that is if you actually possess the discernment I credit you for.

GB

19 great source of encouragement for our li Heb 6:18 Glory Bound 134273
  Unleavened Scripture.

GB
20 Satan said I will how many times? Bible general Archive 2 Glory Bound 134272
  I suspect the answer to your question would depend heavily on which version of the Bible one uses. Though only a few are truly inspired, there are many. too many.

GB
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