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|1||Can believers sin for extended periods||Matt 18:17||Jeshuafreak||57414|
|Thank you for your post it was well timed.|
|2||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55567|
|My belief is that there is nothing in our lives that stands apart from scripture... the root cause of any addiction is sin... and being out of step with God's best for our lives.
If a certain group...be it substance abuse recovery or the like...if they are not firmly rooted in God's word than I ssteer clear. I seen what the world offers for help....self-help has gotten me no where but away from God.. I am into God-help. Watch out for the craftiness of the enemy of our souls. He will never expose himself in his naked deformity , he likes to make it look good. Remember way back in Genesis? The tree looked good for food...
PS We have a Christian counselor at my church.. and I am going to see him next sunday...
|3||What is Mormon relation w/Jesus?||John 5:18||Jeshuafreak||55296|
"A Comparison Between Christian Doctrine
and Mormon Doctrine
"Take up the Bible, compare the religion of the Latter-day Saints with it and see if it will stand the test"
(Brigham Young, May 18, 1873, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 16, page 46.)
Following is a comparison between Christian doctrine and Mormon doctrine. It will become very obvious that Mormonism does not agree with the Bible. In fact, Mormonism has simply used the same words found in Christianity and redefined them. But with a proper understanding of what Mormonism really teaches, you will be able to see past those definitions into the real differences between Christianity and Mormonism.
The difference is the difference between eternal life and damnation."
*****This is all you will need short and simple...print it up and be prepared.. -Jeshuafreak
|4||What is Mormon relation w/Jesus?||John 5:18||Jeshuafreak||55231|
|One Nation Under Gods
by Richard Abanes
***Who are the Mormons and what do they believe? How did Mormonism begin? Is Mormonism just another Christian denomination seeking the world’s betterment, as it claims, or is it an entirely different kind of theological institution? Was Joseph Smith a prophet? One Nation Under Gods: A History of the Mormon Church answers these and other questions associated with the origin, rise, and progress of Mormonism in America from its earliest beginnings as a nineteenth century “cult” to its current image as a conservative Christian denomination. One Nation Under Gods also documents several of the more fascinating, and rarely discussed, events that shaped Mormonism. One Nation Under Gods will appeal to anyone interested in Mormon history, cults, the religious evolution of the United States, and humanity's perennial desire to find spiritual fulfilment -- a desire too often pursued at any cost.
650 Page Hardbound Book ***
|5||question to smoke pot or not||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55202|
|My sister in law is a crack addict|
|6||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55198|
|"NA is good, if you sincerely work the program with a mature sponsor and don't just attend meetings and listen. But more importantly, you really need to have your program under the supervision of a qualified professional substance abuse counselor that you meet with in addition to your sponsor."
*******Too much new age funk in NA. They don't take to kindly to Christians,,especially out spoken Christians like myself.
There is a group called overcomers that meets on Mondays at 7pm at my church.*****
"Once you have completed the program, then you will be ready to be salt and light for others, perhaps by being a sponsor to them. "
******Yes we call them mentors too..and you can find alot of them in a good well balanced protestant church****
"Its clear you have submitted yourself to Christ, now submit yourself to another person who can hold you accountable and help you constructively overcome what you have not yet dealt with."
****Yes it is a slippery slope this thing called sin..****
Parable you are truly a brother thank you and God bless you. -Josh
|7||How do I know I am a real Christian?||1 John 1:9||Jeshuafreak||55156|
"Therefore, the short answer to your question is that one knows he is a "real" Christian when he sincerely asks Jesus into his heart."
I say *AMEN!*
|8||question to smoke pot or not||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55120|
|Thank you for this post. -Jeshuafreak****: Dear elders in Christ, and, new Christians, and, those of you that are visiting this forum and may not know Jesus Christ as savior,
I must say that this thread about smoking pot brings tears to my eyes, not because of the content of the postings, but, because of the subject itself. Please allow me a little liberty here if you will. I am an ex-street gang member, pot smoker, acid user, crack user, and other drugs that I do not even remember. In addition I am an ex-drug dealer. Please, please, please do not take this matter of pot smoking lightly! I must apoligize because I have not read every posting in this thread, but, I have seen some commentary that says, and this is not the exact wording, that smoking pot is "OK", or, "With proper use is not a problem", and, "There are bad experiences and good experiences with smoking pot". It is with a sorrowful heart and tears that I share the following with you because the old man is dead forever, but, I am compelled to post this. I have seen, as well as experienced, both good and bad effects of pot. I have smoked it, eaten it, and made hashish from it. I've been to the hospital with people who have smoked it. I have witnessed brutal beatings of people as a result of pot smoking parties. Orgies are a result of pot smoking. I have seen, and it is with many tears that I write this my friends, little children go uncared for to the point of unchanged diapers for days, unfed, naked, left alone, and "high" from pot being smoked in the same room. When high, the children were disoriented, falling off of furniture at times because they could not sit upright, and not in there right mind. I'm sorry, I cannot go on friends, tears have turned to weeping. There is more though, more that I do not want to remember.
Those of you that are Christians and desire to smoke pot please see the following from the KJV. I know what pot can do with the imagination.
2 Corinthians 10
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Thank you my Lord and my God and my Savior for loving me enough to pull out of that life!
In the Love of Christ,
I will bless the Lord at all times! His praise shall continually be in my mouth!
|9||question to smoke pot or not||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55116|
|Thank you for your post. -Jeshuafreak|
|10||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55114|
|Thank you ...and no.. I am pretty sure that I need spport from my wife, my Christian brothers and all of you. Please pray for me to have the strength from God to deny my flesh. There is no temptetion but that which is common to man.. He will not let us face the temptation w/out also giving us a means of escape. There is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. I am a blood washed pilgrim and I am a soldier of Christ .. Lord keep me growing into the fullness of the man You want me to be . Thank YOu Lord. Amen|
|11||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55112|
|"1 Cor 5:11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one. "
I know this verse well and I do sense your genuine heart felt emotion and love for me in Christ. I feel as Paul at times, "wishing that I were accursed , for the sake of the salvation of my brothers and sisters who still smoke pot." my paraphrase and I couldn't tell you the address either. You know brother, I do know alot about the Word... but honestly I don't have too much practical experience living this Christian life. I know more about living life on its terms instead of on God's terms. I did stay clean and sober for 3 and a half years. I was in N.A. along with my mom. She was a heroin addict (on methadone now). I was in N.A. first to support my mom and started to get to some of them and it was good for me ...to a point. I learned that I could do life without drugs, and booze or anything else. I did not know the Lord then . I prayed to a higher power. God as I created him. See my God was a blender mix of evrything I thought was spiritual. I didn't want to go to church because I was living a sinful lifestyle. Though I didn't know it then. I was learning secular humanism and the human potential movement first hand. I was indoctrinated with all that stuff. I was the same person at the end of the three years. I was just aware of my ability to not have to do dope. I saw many people go in and out of those rooms and the sob stories and year after year it was the same thing...boring. I learned how to be a user of women. I was addicted to sex as well. I was is sick denial there... cause I thought I loved them. ***incidently this is all going to be in the book....the Lord is helping me put it together.*** I was and am now ADD growing up. And very hyperactive. They startedme on Ritalin, which is amphetamines (speed). This would make me mellow because it "over-amped" my system and I became the opposite of what I normally was. Gramma got me off those , thank God. In later years (H.S.) I expiremented with speed a little and didn't like it because it made me quiet....lol..not my nature to be quiet. I believe God made e the way I am and wants me to be completely free of substances. I was conditioned to party when I was growing up. Then from 16 to 19 I was conditioned to live clean and sober and be a self centered individual. From 19 to 24 I condoitioned my self to party constructively. I was a functional drug user. I worked 40 hours a week..sold a little pot to support my habit. I was smoking free weed...then I stopped selling it and bought it. It is very expensive , and I was spending quite a bit of money... I shudder to think how much I have actually spent on getting high... Thank You Lord for Your forgiveness. Thank You Lord for sending Your Son on ahead of me to pave the way on that via dela Rosa.. Thank You Jesus for laying down Your life for mine...that YOu chose me to be found in YOu even before time. I prais e You and honor You and glorfy YOur name forever AMEN******Sometimes I just want to shout JESUS!!!
|12||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55087|
"No, you can only quit once. Temporarily not using is not the same thing as quitting."
AND I AGREE...but what I said was-
"I have made many breaks from pot."
Sometimes long for 3 years and shorter 1 year..
YOu also said****
"You are correct that you must leave behind your old life, especially your party friends, not because of your harsh judgement of that lifestyle and those you share it with, but rather because you see that you cannot survive their company nor withstand the forces that drive their using." With all due respect you don't know me or my freinds...I have tight friends who have known me for years and would do anything for me...they just happen to be ocasional pot smokers.. I will not judge them for that they will have to stand before the Lord one day , just like you and I , and give an account for the things done in the flesh... Think real hard and search deep in yourself...maybe there is something similair in your life that your flesh likes alot AND MAKE APPLICATION. Don't sit there an piously make your assumptions.. it is not atractive, nor uplifting. I know where I satnd...like David said in Psalm 51 my sin is ever before me.. AND GUESS WHAT? WE all sin. Confess it to the Lord and ask Him to do the changing and He will . No matter what happens He is the one that is causing all things to work together for good in the lives of genuine believers.. those of us who know Jesus personally. Thank again for advice....
You said at the end of your post****
"You must not think that you can help them while you are still in bondage to this. Yes, we are salt and light, but don't deceive yourself into believing you are either until the Lord delivers you from this. Many have fallen because they underestimated how deeply the hook is set."
This is very true... my case in point.. one day I will be able to go into a smoke filled room and not be drawn to it or adversaly affected by the temptation.. but I will be able to share the goodness, mercy and grace with them that Jesus has for them. -Jeshuafreak
|13||IS TONGUES FOR TODAY?||1 Cor 14:5||Jeshuafreak||55085|
|I was saying that it is not THE only evidence that is is only one of many and not every believer , myself included , speaks in tongues. go to www.equip.org for books like COUNTERFEIT REVIVAL and CHRISTIANITY IN CRISIS by Hank Hanegraff. There are many false teachers and false Christins for that matter exhibiting counterfeit gifts, and counterfeit signs and wonders. BENNY HINN, REINHARD BONKEY , KENNETH COPELAND, T.D. JAKES, Frederick K.C. Price, Kenneth Hagin, Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer and others. Each of these teachers are immensely promoted on the TBN Network. *****ALSO READ THE FOLOWING ARTICLE****PROPHETS OF PROFIT
WITHIN THE WALLS OF THE CHURCH******
|14||what is your point?||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||55084|
|I have made many breaks from pot.....I am not the personality that can't handle it on his own... I end up becoming legalistic and judgemental on those who still smoke it. They know how I get when I don't smoke it. I don't come around I don't call them....I hardly leave my home. I wrap myself up in a protective security blanket of Christian friends and church. This is in part wrong to do.. Christians have an obligation to the lost, misinformed and immoral brother. We need to be salt and light.
thank you for the advice though.
|15||IS TONGUES FOR TODAY?||1 Cor 14:5||Jeshuafreak||55005|
|16||question to smoke pot or not||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||54974|
|Hmmmm... good point. -Jeshuafreak
*** not too sure bout the left wing in politics...they have a different "head" and father
|17||question to smoke pot or not||Gen 1:12||Jeshuafreak||54973|
|You said, "Of course, the problem comes only if the actions are sinful. I understand that this is precisely the question you're asking in regard to smoking pot, and my point is that experience shows time after time that drug abuse interferes with one's relationship with God" I say AMEN!!!
Did you take time to read this article? Thank you for your comments though unnecessary The talk was a great argument on why Christians should NOT smoke pot. Again thank you for your comments. -Jeshuafreak
READ IT THEN MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE
|18||IS TONGUES FOR TODAY?||1 Cor 14:5||Jeshuafreak||54928|
|The Holy Spirit is not an it He is a He. He is God and tongues is AN evidence not THE evidence......And WE RECIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT WHEN WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH CHRIST JESUS. If have excepted Christ as your Lord and Savior you have the Holy Spirit.
YOU SAID******"Yes it is! I am a Pentecostal, and we believe that the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost(Spirit) is tongues. When you receive the Holy Ghost you are actually accepting Jesus Christ into you, and once It is in you It tells you what to say. Oft times it is a Heavenly language and no one can understand it, and other times it is in a different language that you do not know how to talk but someone who speaks that language can understand you a receive what God has for them through you. It is very much real and very much for today. I have myself received the Holy Ghost and it is the most wonderful feeling you will ever experience. It is Scriptural too! Acts 2:4, Luke 12:12, 1Cor 6:19, Romans 5:5, Isaiah 28:11 ... this is just some of the Scriptures that tell about the Holy Ghost!"
|19||do not get drunk with wine||Eph 5:18||Jeshuafreak||54911|
|My soul might be perpetually dropping showers of tears, if it might know the doom and destruction brought on by that one demon, and by that one demon only! Though I am no total abstainer, I hate drunkenness as much as any man breathing, and have been the means of bringing many poor creatures to relinquish this bestial indulgence. We believe drunkenness to be an awful crime and a horrid sin. We stand prepared to go to war with it. How many thousands are murdered every year by that accursed devil of drunkenness!
- Charles Spurgeon
|20||Having been on the losing side||Bible general Archive 1||Jeshuafreak||54909|
|I especially liked his ending. I will pray more on this, I don't want it to be an issue for me and to hinder my reaching out in love to my pot smoking Christian friends. I have isolated and cut them off like lepers when my love should be of the top most priority. I can't put myself away in a Christian comune I have to reach out to those who are in bondage and perishing for the lack of knowledge.
"Christian liberty is given so that we might learn to be holy. "That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life" (Luke 1:74-75). Those who desire holiness have to walk away from marijuana for good. "
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