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1 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235706 | ||
Greetings CDBJ can you elaborate on why you say no? I read Galatians their was discussion about the old testament law in the 3rd chapter but in Galatians 3:19 it supports my question. the law would last untill the seed would come. Thank You fmp6954 |
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2 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235721 | ||
When the Bible says that the wages of sin is death; what is it referring to since there are 7 different types of death mentioned in the Bible? Romans 6:23 (NKJV) (A) 23 For the wages of sin is death, This death is Definition The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon 1. the death of the body a. that separation (whether natural or violent) of the soul and the body by which the life on earth is ended b. with the implied idea of future misery in hell separated from Christ. Can you name the seven deaths ? and add the book chapter and verse where they occur. I could not respond the the following words, The didn’t make a whole lot of sence to me. Could you explain what I have in CAPITALS Your response When Jesus said it is finished in John 19:30 he wasn’t dead yet SO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN HIS PHYSICAL THAT PAID THE PRICE OR SIN. John 19:30 (NKJV) 30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said,"IT IS FINISHED" And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit. The word finished in the English is translated from the Koine Greek verb “TELEO” and IT IS IN THE IDICATIVE MOOD WHICH MEANS IT WAS ALREADY A REALITY at that point in time and the passive voice meaning He had received it SO IT WASN’T PHYSICAL DEATH THAT PAID THE PRICE! The blood as referred in the OT is what’s known as a representative analogy: it foreshadowed what the Messiah would accomplish when He came into the world. It could only cover sin at that point in time until the Lamb of God would take it away. Again what death was it that paid the price for sin? If you suggest that it was physical death then when WE DIE PHYSICALLY THAT WOULD PAY FOR OU OWN SINS AND THAT WON’T CUT IT! |
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3 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235722 | ||
Your note: There is only one way to salvation and that is through the blood of christ,his blood was shed once and forever ,no flesh can be saved by the law, WHAT LAW ARE YOU REFERING TO? when Christ was crucified the blood ordinances was nailed to the cross with him WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO AS BLOOD ORDINANCES? ,circumcision is of the heart both for man and woman.and as for as the law it is what keeps man out of trouble AGAIN WHAT LAW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? it will never be abolished, IF IT IS NOT ABOLISHED THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE MOSIAC LAW AND THE TEN COMMANDMANTS THAT IS PART OF THE THAT LAW WHEN GOD SAID IT WAS FULFILLED, COMPLETED, FINISHED, ENDED, DONE AWAY WITH ? THE LAW INCLUDING THE TEN COMMANDMENT AND REPLACED IT WITH THE NEW LAW (THE NEW TESTAMENT). YOU CAN’T LIVE BY TWO LAWS AT THE SAME TIME. AND IN THE FIRST PLACE THE LAW INCLUDING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WAS NEVER FOR CHRISTIANS OR GENTILES. IT WAS GIVEN TO MOSES FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL. EXODUS: 34:27,28 |
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4 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235732 | ||
Here is what you quoted "There is only one way to salvation and that is through the blood of christ,his blood was shed once and forever ,no flesh can be saved by the law," Are you saying the old law could not save you ? If so I agree that is why Jesus done away with it and gave us a new Law the New testament. |
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5 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235733 | ||
you quoted this. when Christ was crucified the blood ordinances was nailed to the cross with him WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO AS BLOOD ORDINANCES? book , chapter and verse please. |
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6 | ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235736 | ||
You say: it will never be abolished. IF IT IS NOT ABOLISHED THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE MOSIAC LAW AND THE TEN COMMANDMANTS THAT IS PART OF THE THAT LAW WHEN GOD SAID IT WAS FULFILLED, COMPLETED, FINISHED, ENDED, DONE AWAY WITH ? THE LAW INCLUDING THE TEN COMMANDMENT AND REPLACED IT WITH THE NEW LAW (THE NEW TESTAMENT). YOU CAN’T LIVE BY TWO LAWS AT THE SAME TIME. |
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7 | Live over 2000 years Old | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235783 | ||
CDBJ i have know idea where you came up with "all of you standing here" I use the NASB and it doesn't say that Matthew 16;28 actually says 28 asuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. I checked the The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon and all does not I repeat does not apear under the difinitionss of some. Further more all the scolars that compiled the new american standard bible say it is some and I belive they are more intelegent than you are. Verily I say unto you. This is a strong asseveration, Christ puts his "Amen" to it; declaring it to be a certain truth, which may firmly be believed: there be some standing here; meaning either his disciples, or some of the audience; for it is clear from ( Mark 8:34 ) that the people were called unto him with his disciples, when he said these words: which shall not taste of death: that is, shall not die; a phrase frequently used by the Jewish doctors: they say till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom; which is not to be understood of his personal coming in his kingdom in the last day, when he will judge quick and dead; for it cannot be thought, that any then present should live to that time, but all tasted of death long before, as they have done; for the story of John's being alive, and to live till then, is fabulous, and grounded on a mistake which John himself has rectified at the close of his Gospel: nor of the glorious transfiguration of Christ, the account of which immediately follows; when he was seen by Peter, James, and John, persons now present; for that, at most, was but an emblem and a pledge of his future glory: rather, of the appearance of his kingdom, in greater glory and power, upon his resurrection from the dead, and his ascension to heaven; when the Spirit was poured down in an extraordinary manner, and the Gospel was preached all over the world; was confirmed by signs and wonders, and made effectual to the conversion and salvation of many souls; which many then present lived to see, and were concerned in: though it seems chiefly to have regard to his coming, to show his regal power and authority in the destruction of the Jews; when those his enemies that would not he should reign over them, were ordered to be brought and slain before him; and this the Apostle John, for one, lived to be a witness of. BEWARE! Stop trying to twist the word of God to conform to your doctrine and miss using the Greek. |
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8 | Live over 2000 years Old | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235793 | ||
No you didn't rattle me at all I was just saddened to see someone abuse the the doctrine of God that way The Apostles were not the only people Jesus was talking to in Matt. 16:28 did you not read Mark 8:34 that I quoted? Out of that group of Peoplesome could have died before Penacost ,when the Kingdom came. by the way the Kingdom was Christ's Church |
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9 | Live over 2000 years Old | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235807 | ||
when I said "all the evidence" I was refering to all the evidence that I posted in my note. Not saying that their was not any other evidence out their. But let me say that if you can find any other evidence the is contary to the evidence that I displayed, then wouldn't that indicate a contradiction in the word ? I don't believe the bible contradicts it's self. Therefore all scripture will agree if understood corectly. Do you not agree? |
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10 | Live over 2000 years Old | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235813 | ||
BradK can you suport your stand with evidence Book, chapter ,and verse. that the Kingdom came at another time then at Pentecost? |
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11 | what is antinomianism ? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235839 | ||
Defination: derogatory term thanks Doc fmp |
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12 | what is dispensationalism? | Bible general Archive 4 | fmp6954 | 235840 | ||
definition: Dispensationalism is a theological system that teaches biblical history It maintains fundamental distinctions between God's plans for national Israel and for the New Testament Church, and emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and a pre-tribulation rapture of the church prior to Christ's Second Coming. thanks Doc fmp |
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13 | Romans 7:1-4 | Bible general Archive 2 | fmp6954 | 236127 | ||
Only nine of the ten commandments are found in the New Testament. the 4th commandment to Keep the sabbath is not includeded. If you know know where it is please quote book, chapter and verse I woul like to see it. thank you fmp |
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14 | Romans 7:1-4 | Bible general Archive 2 | fmp6954 | 236131 | ||
First of all your answer was useless, Read the question again I said where in the New Testament is the 4th commandment found? Not the Old Testament. You seem to not understand what the word fulfilled means, Look it up, the old law including the ten Commandments were completed, finished , of no more use. Why because the New Testament was a much better Law. And In the New Testament 9 of the 10 commandments were re-instated with the exception of the 4th commandment which was to keep the Sabbath . You cannot worship two different Laws at the same time. Paul clearly argues, in his letter to the Ephesians, that the “law of commandments contained in ordinances” was “abolished” by the death of Jesus upon the cross (2:14-15). The Greek term for “abolished” is katargeo, literally suggesting the idea of reducing something to a state of inactivity. Paul uses this term twice in Romans 7:2,6 — showing that just as a wife is “discharged” from the law of her husband when he dies, even so, through the death of the body of Christ, men were “discharged” from the obligations of the Mosaic law. That the law here contemplated is the law of Moses, including the ten commandments, is demonstrated by the reference to the tenth commandment in Romans 7:7 (cf. Ex. 20:17). |
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15 | Where is the 4th Commandmant found | Bible general Archive 2 | fmp6954 | 236143 | ||
Thanks Doc For the tip on the searching the archives I wasn't aware of that. I did find what I was looking for. As for the word proselytizing,you might as well have been speaking in tongues, I have know idea what that means. This is what I found: Subject: Sunday Sabbath or not? Note: PART 2 OF 2 Here are the 9 other commandments reiterated by both Jesus and another NT writer. Commandment 1 (Matthew 22:36-40 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 2 (Revelation 2:14 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 3 (Matthew 12:31 and 1 Timothy 6:1) Commandment 5 (Matthew 19:19 and Ephesians 6:2-3) Commandment 6 (Matthew 5:21-22 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 7 (Matthew 5:27-28 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 8 (Matthew 15:19-20 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 9 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 10 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) This is not the case with the 4th commandment. After Jesus death on the cross, no where do we see Paul or any other writer in the New Testament commanding Sabbath observance like they did on these nine other commandments. When we come to the Sabbath we see the contrary. The fact is the 10 commandments is the old covenant which was abolished. But Nine of the commandments where reinstated into the new covenant, which is the law of Christ. Deuteronomy 9:9 "When I went up to the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the LORD had made with you, then I remained on the mountain forty days and nights; I neither ate bread nor drank water. Deuteronomy 4:13 "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments ; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone. Then Paul makes clear that this covenant of the Ten Commandments were abolished, culminated with verse eleven “For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.” 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. It is obvious that Jesus was not trying to keep the law of the Sabbath intact in the New Covenant. John 5:18 18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. In Christ, Seth Knorr In Christ Fmp |
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16 | Are their 2 sets of 10 commandments? | OT general | fmp6954 | 236844 | ||
I guess i didn't state the question properly to get the answer i was looking for. Let me try it again first we do have the 10 commandments that Moses brought down from the mountain. Now e have a new set of 9 commandments stated in the New Testament. the 4th was left out but that is not part of the question. The question is which set of commandments do we follow today or do we use both ? | ||||||
17 | Are their 2 sets of 10 commandments? | OT general | fmp6954 | 236865 | ||
Hey Doc you don't have to be rude about it the only place that i saw that was even close to answering my question was sethknorr at 232876 only his topic was mainly the fourth commandment, yet he was pretty clear that the commandments in the newtestmant were the ones to follow today. Most people on the fourm do not understand that, still trying to hang onto the old law of sin and death. In Christ Fmp6954 |
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18 | Why did God allow Polygamy? | Gen 2:21 | fmp6954 | 236018 | ||
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19 | Why did God allow Polygamy? | Gen 2:21 | fmp6954 | 236031 | ||
Hello Again Justme From what I can understand you feel that there is more to being saved than just believing . Then are you saying that you are saved when you are baptized? About the lady with cancer, She had her whole life to find Jesus, and obey the gospel , why she waited till she was on her death bed I don’t know. One might think that she didn’t know for sure if their was a God or not and only wanted to cover her bases. I don’t know if she truly believed , or if she repented, or if she confessed before men that Jesus was the Son of God. I do know that she was not baptized according to Gods word. Only God knows her heart, and if He decides to save her so be it. You stated that Baptism could be one way of confession. Confession is before men . You confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, I don’t believe baptism can do that. I do agree with you about obedience, up to the point where you were talking about satans trap and emotions, their you lost me, I would probably agree if I understood what you ment. Falling from Grace Lets consider that: Is when you become a Christian and following Christ and growing in the Lord. Sometimes called walking in the Light. If you discontinue fellowship and start sinning, sometimes called backsliding, your are not walking in the light any longer, and you step out from under the umbrella of grace. Therefore falling from grace, Of course you can repent and come back to Christ. In Christ Fmp |
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20 | Why did God allow Polygamy? | Gen 2:21 | fmp6954 | 236042 | ||
Hello Steve I do respect your opinions on Falling from Grace, Everything else we seem to be tracking pretty good. Maybe baptism I fully agree with Pauls example of falling from Grace, Acts 15:11 Some men came down from Judea and began teaching the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." These men were trying to justify salvation with the old law, Jesus Planly states that circumcision didn’t matter. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love. So Galatians 5:4 says: You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law ; you have fallen from grace. That is just one example. Lets take Paul for an example, We are going to be looking at three points, the first of which is that it is pos¬sible to fall from God’s grace. In 1 Corinthians 9:27 Paul was writing to the church in Cor¬inth. He knew that he had to discipline his own body, spiritually speaking. He was a preach¬er of the truth, yet he realized that he could become a castaway. Paul was an apostle. He was someone who we know was converted to the truth. Formerly, he had been a persecutor of Christianity, but now was one who is preaching Christianity. There is no doubt that he was a faithful member of the Lord’s church, yet he realized that he had to make sure that he continued to discipline his body because he did not want to become a castaway. Think about this for a moment. If an apostle like Paul realized that he could become a cast¬away, err, and fall from the grace of God, how much more, then, must we understand that we, too, can become castaways. It is vital that we take Paul’s warning and see how it is possible for us to fall from God’s grace. In 1 Corinthians 10 Paul explained his purpose for writing this portion of his letter to the church in Corinth. In verses 1-4 Paul says, “Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.” What is the context of these comments? Paul makes it clear that he is talking about Israel¬ites who were God’s people under the Old Law. Paul was giving some background about them. Notice, however, what he says in verse 5. “But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.” Most of the Israelites had erred, and with most of them God was not pleased. Paul explains why in verses 6 and 7 when he says, “These things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, ‘The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.’” He is referring to what happened in Exodus 32 when Moses was still on the mountain receiving the Ten Commandments from God. The people said, “Let us build an idol.” They begged Aaron to make them a golden calf so that they would have a physical idol to lead them. That is what Aaron did, and the people erred by doing that. In verses 8 Paul went on to write, “Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell.” Twenty-three thousand fell. People today say, “You cannot fall from God’s grace. Yet Paul himself said that twenty-three thousand fell in one day. He continues in verses 9-11 by saying, “Nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.” Paul tells us that the reason he is writing these things is to offer us an example so that we can turn back and use this information. We can learn from that since it is for our admonition. Why is Paul writing to people under the New Law about people who fell away under the Old Law? If it is impossible for people to fall away, then why would Paul be warning them about that? His reasoning is that it is possible for people to fall away. I want us to look at 1 Corinthians 10:12 very carefully. Notice the warning that Paul offers. “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.” Those are not my words. They are the words that Paul was writing to the church. He said, “Make sure that you do not fall away like those under the Old Law fell away. You need to learn from them so that you will not fall away as well.” Paul proved that is possible for a Christian to fall away. Running out of space In Christ Fmp |
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