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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: figgy Ordered by Verse |
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21 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93649 | ||
Dear Gracefull, Thanks for your post. I have read it and re-read several times in an attempt to truly understand your representation of the WOF beliefs. There are a few points to address later. However, I really am striving to understand how it is that WOF teachers tell people that if they are not healed in some way (lets use physically as an example) than they must not have enough faith. Do you believe this to be true? It may sound like a simplistic question to your well articulated post but I must use this as a starting point in understanding what it is that WOF teaches if I am to examine my own assumptions. Thanks! --Figgy |
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22 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93748 | ||
Radioman- Thanks for posting this article. It confirmed what I had believed to be the WOF beliefs and roots. Gracefull's note to my post, based on my perception, does not seem to represent the WOF movement for what is truly is and what they believe. I would be interested in seeing his/her's opinion of what you just sent me. God Bless! Figgy |
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23 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93843 | ||
Hi Gracefull- I wish I had the time to truly delve into this. However, with a one and a half year old trying to "help" mommy everytime I sit down at the computer, please forgive me for not being able to address each point that you make. Any omission on my part is not intended to ignore what you have taken precious time and thought to write. Here is the bottom line as I see it - God is sovereign and can and will DO ANYTHING that he pleases regardless of our actions. We cannot control Him (however Biblical our desires may be) through any type of "personal faith development" (ie formulas). Yes, faith is very important in the life of a christian. We are to pray without ceasing. My faith is in knowing that God will answer my prayers in His time and in the manner that is best. However, from what I have read and seen regarding the WOF beliefs, faith is likened to some force that is used to move God. This can become very problematic when one tries to move God to some action with all the faith they can muster and God does not move. According to WOF, the logical conclusion is that the person must not have enough faith. Again, where does the sovereignty of God come into the picture? I am sooooo thankful that He has not said yes to everything I have prayed for in my lifetime! He is all knowing and all wise and my faith is placed in HIS wisdom. The Bible says "My God shall supply all my needs according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus" (Phil 4:19) There is no condition for x amount of faith here. If we trust in God he provides for our needs. How awesome and yet so simple is that?? I feel no pressure to have a CERTAIN amount of faith and I am totally confidant that He will provide. As an aside, you mentioned something about the laying on of hands to heal. My impression of your statment is that it is a requirement for healing. If you believe this - how is that scriptural? Is God limited to what He can do by our actions? Gracefull, it can be challenging having a debate via an email. Please know that everything I say is with a tone unintended to offend. I simply challenge you to truly examine WOF beliefs in light of the inerrant Word of God. In Him, Figgy |
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24 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93888 | ||
Hi EdB- I have been encouraged by your kind notes. This forum is forcing to me to think - ouch! :) -Figgy |
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25 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93889 | ||
Dear LDS and Gracefull- I am posting a link to a powerful testimony written by a woman who was once involved in the WOF movement. It is an illustration that real pain is the ultimate end to these false teachings on faith. I found it extremely compelling. I am not really interested in striking up a more heated debate. I would just encourage you to read it if you so choose. God Bless! http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/mytest.html |
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26 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93914 | ||
I should clarify my sentence: I said originally "God is sovereign and can and will DO ANYTHING that he pleases regardless of our actions. We cannot control Him (however Biblical our desires may be) through any type of "personal faith development" (ie formulas)." What I meant by this was that often times we may think with all of hearts that what we desire (whatever it may be) is God's will for us. However, it may NOT BE God's will for us and no amount of faith will move him if it is not His will. I am in whole hearted agreement with you that God does not contradict himself. Yes - GOD IS FAITHFUL! He does not break his promises. I am sorry if I somehow conveyed the message that I believe otherwise. -Figgy |
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27 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 93927 | ||
Hi Gracefull- I think we have come full circle in our discussion. I would have to go back to my first or second note to you in which it seems to me that you do not represent the WOF movement as I have seen it represented by many others (including a few on this forum, and the leaders of it - Copeland, Hagin, Hinn). Perhaps you and I have more common ground than originally suspected regardless of my views on WOF. God Bless! Figgy |
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28 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | figgy | 94296 | ||
Hi Dad- Thanks for bringing in some concrete examples here of the blatant heresies which have been taught in WOF. These quotes speak volumes that many leaders of WOF are teaching non-Biblical things. I would suspect you are going to get some responses that these are not quotes from WOF teachers. Love, Figgy |
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29 | Church curses??? | Luke 9:55 | figgy | 98069 | ||
This is a re-post of a question I asked yesterday. Someone responded without answering the question and it has since gotten "buried". I would like to ask it one more time in the hopes someone can shed some light: I recently read an article by a pastor who I deeply respect. He brought up the topic of corporate imprecations (curses) on those who are driving a particular evil agenda (I am not going to get into what the agenda is because I do not want to get into an issue other than my question). He referred to them as God's enemies (since they are actively and agressively promoting ungodliness) and are appropriate targets of the Church's holy curses. I have never heard of church curses. Anybody have any thoughts, insights, explanations on this topic? Thanks. |
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30 | Church curses??? | Luke 9:55 | figgy | 98075 | ||
Greetings! Thank you so much for your answer. With respect to evil political agendas (i.e. abortion, homosexuality,etc), how is the church as whole called to respond? I am not referring specifically to the abortion minded woman in a crisis or a specific homosexual but rather those involved in perpetrating and promoting such things. The article discusses praying that God would judge them and graciously protect all those on whom they prey. Any thoughts? Thanks! Figgy |
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31 | corporate curses? | Rom 12:14 | figgy | 97968 | ||
I recently read an article by a pastor who I deeply respect. He brought up the topic of corporate imprecations (curses) on those who are driving a particular evil agenda (I am not going to get into what the agenda is because I do not want to get into an issue other than my question). He referred to them as God's enemies (since they are actively and agressively promoting ungodliness) and are appropriate targets of the Church's holy curses. I have never heard of church curses. Anybody have any thoughts, insights, explanations on this topic? Thanks. | ||||||
32 | Church curses??? | Rom 12:14 | figgy | 98065 | ||
This is a re-post of a question I asked yesterday. Someone responded without answering the question and it has since gotten "buried". I would like to ask it one more time in the hopes someone can shed some light: I recently read an article by a pastor who I deeply respect. He brought up the topic of corporate imprecations (curses) on those who are driving a particular evil agenda (I am not going to get into what the agenda is because I do not want to get into an issue other than my question). He referred to them as God's enemies (since they are actively and agressively promoting ungodliness) and are appropriate targets of the Church's holy curses. I have never heard of church curses. Anybody have any thoughts, insights, explanations on this topic? Thanks. |
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33 | "objects of wrath" | Eph 2:3 | figgy | 98889 | ||
Dear Hank- Your argument for banning the C/A discussion goes like this: "What we do know is that sparks will fly, feelings will be hurt, and that the wall that divides the two camps will be raised even higher." OK, that's reasonable. I can see your point. However, then you said to GeneZ in response to his opinion: "Que sera, sera" Then you said to John Reformed: "This evening I happened to glance through the Book of Romans and lo, I discovered that Romans 9 has 8 chapters before it and 7 chapters after it. Just thought I'd pass this on in case you thought Romans 9 was the only chapter in the book. No charge for the service. Glad to oblige." I say this - OUCH. The type of language that perpetrates hurt feelings and divisiveness is the type of language you are using with these last two posts. Sarcasm is not respectful and only serves to provoke others. How can you so vehemently defend your position on this topic and then engage in the type of dialogue that promotes anger and hurt feelings? Just wondering. Psalm 15:1 A soft answer turns away wrath. But a harsh word stirs up anger. God Bless, Figgy |
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34 | "objects of wrath" | Eph 2:3 | figgy | 98890 | ||
Correction - Proverbs 15:1, not Psalms 15:1. OOPS. | ||||||
35 | "objects of wrath" | Eph 2:3 | figgy | 98893 | ||
Hi mommapbs- Thanks for your response. I am total agreement with you that personal criticism is innapropriate. I did not personally criticize anybody. I wanted to point out that sarcastic remarks to other forum members is innappropriate. I apologize that you were grieved by my post. I certainly have no intention of stirring up any disunity. If you would like to expand on where I went wrong in my post, I would be open to hearing you. I actually never even thought about writing a personal profile. I don't really read anybody elses. I will consider doing so. Is it a requirement for being on the forum? Thanks. God Bless, Figgy |
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36 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | figgy | 94507 | ||
Hi John Reformed (Dad), I was just thinking on the post sent by baptistbred and about to respond when I saw that you sent this post. How funny. Anyway, your distinction makes a lot of sense. However, 1 John 3:10 gives the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil. It is twofold: 1.) the children of the devil do not practice righteousness. That is, they clearly do not follow God's law in scripture for their lives (antinomianism) and 2.) they do not love their brother. That is, if they still despised and persecuted christians, there is no way they would be children of God. With that said, it could be clear who are children of God and children of the devil based on the two criter1a given in 1 John. Your thoughts? Elaine |
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37 | Who makes the rules? | 1 John 3:9 | figgy | 94618 | ||
Dear Bapristbred- You have brought up some points that have caused me to do some searching. It seems to me that you are hinting that salvation is somehow earned through works. You said "one cannot see faith WITHOUT works." * James 1:20 - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? A result of true faith in Christ RESULTS in good works for the christian. According to my study Bible the word dead means without fruit. Therefore, one who does not bear the fruit of righteousness (good works) shows that the free gift of God (salvation) has never been recieved (Reformation Study Bible notes). Faith is key to our salvation and true faith produces good works. We, as sinful humans, can never produce good works that will cause us to "see faith". God Bless, Figgy |
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