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1 | Is Belief in the Trinity Required? | Bible general Archive 4 | Morant61 | 230279 | ||
Greetings Holmes! I have been trying to catch up on this thread. :) It seems to me that many forget the incarnation when discussion the question of equality. Scripture makes it clear that Jesus is fully God in every sense of the word, but His status changed during the incarnation. He 'emptied Himself' and 'became a servant'. During this time, His Father was greater than He. His Father was His God, because He Himself was fully man. But, these situation only existed during the incarnation. P.S. - I am in agreement with Beja. I believe that no one comes to salvation with a full understanding of the Trinity. So, in that sense, it is not necessary for salvation. But, any view that demeans Jesus is heresy and should be rejected. Thus, as a believer submits to Scripture, he or she will come to recognize the Trinity. As an individual, I could not say that someone who rejects the Trinity is not saved, but I can say that he or she is a false teacher. Great discussion. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is Belief in the Trinity Required? | Bible general Archive 4 | Holmes | 230283 | ||
Hi Tim, It is an interesting argument that God the Father was only the God of the Lord Jesus Christ during a 33-year span while Jesus was alive as a man. Also, that this is the only time that God the Father was greater than the Son. Sounds like they were “co-equal” except when they weren’t. However, I do not see this supported by scripture. John 6:38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This was, of course, pre-incarnate and clearly shows a line of authority from the Father to the Son. 1 Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. This is post-incarnate and the line of authority remains. I see the relationship between the Father and the Son as constant. And when Christ was here, he was “God with us.” None of this diminishes Christ one iota. What brings Him honor and praise is His absolute submission to the Father. This is the lesson for us, the path that Christ followed is the one we are to follow. Holmes |
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