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1 | Harsh Treatment? | Bible general Archive 4 | Inquisitor | 224585 | ||
Beja, I too believe in being a philosopher and discuss Bible all day long. But I'm thinking the scriptures (and History) I provided proves that people don't like labels when we're encouraged by God to wear His name and show His Word through our lives. I noticed your post didn't really address any of the scriptures as referenced in my post. How can one argue against them? Jesus says we're either for Him or against Him... Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters. Yes, as I mentioned above I too am a philosopher but I'm thinking we should only pilosophize (sp?) on those items as optional in the Bible. There are a few things in the NT (much fewer than in the OT) that should not be up for debate. As I understand these verses, our Lord doesn't like to see name-calling used in any regard, especially when we re-read the 1 Corinthian letter. We should not place an undue amount of value on any one person's opinion (including mine BTW) but instead Christ is to get ALL the preeminence. Colossians 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. I can imagine since you've argued so passionately for your position that you're not going to change your way of thinking, at least not easily. I'm just hoping to give you some "food for thought," hopefully from the Lord. God bless you, Inquisitor |
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2 | Harsh Treatment? | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 224586 | ||
Inquisitor, I didn't respond to your verses because I had no idea what you were trying to show by them. If anything the verses you used thoroughly established my view! For did not Christ himself give their errant doctrine a name? I can only come to one of two conclusions. Either you intend to argue against something regardless of whether it is what anybody is saying which is called a strawman arguement, or you completely don't understand my view I'm trying to express. Here are some things you are speaking against as if we are taking the opposite view when nobody, including myself would disagree with you. 1.) You say that nobody should regard a particular mans's teaching above scripture. Nobody is arguing that a person should! When I say that I am a Calvinist I do not mean by that that I am an ardent follower of John Calvin. There are several things that Calvin says which I believe he is dead wrong about. He believed in and tought infant baptism and I think he's dead wrong. I am not a follower of John Calvin. BUT the particular five doctrines that have come to be termed today as Calvinism, those I do believe and I believe them only because I believe they are clearly taught by scripture, not because John Calvin happened to teach them. When I say I am a calvinist it is not declaring myself as a follower of John Calvin but rather a simple way in one word to express my affirmation that those particular five doctrines are actually taught in scripture as true. It really seems, as I said, either you don't know what I mean when I say that, or you intend to argue against a strawman position which nobody is defending. 2.) You keep insisting scripture is against name calling. Nobody thinks scripture is for it! We are not at all suggesting that scripture is in favor of insulting or calling people derrogatory phrases at all. That you think we are defending such a position makes me think once again, either you don't at all understand what I'm saying or you intend to argue against this strawman position which nobody is defending. So let me offer this. I agree that we should not say mean things to each other, and I agree that we should exclusively follow the teachings of scripture and not those of any man who is teaching something contrary. Does that bring us into agreement? In Christ, Beja |
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3 | Harsh Treatment? | Bible general Archive 4 | Inquisitor | 224588 | ||
Quoted from Beja: So let me offer this. I agree that we should not say mean things to each other, and I agree that we should exclusively follow the teachings of scripture and not those of any man who is teaching something contrary. I think I can live with that. Thanks for your patience. And as always, God's blessings on you, Inquisitor |
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