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1 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | Bumb | 166780 | ||
If God is the creator of all why would he create Satan? Why would Stan believe (knowing God is his creator) that he could be victorious over God? | ||||||
2 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 166797 | ||
To answer the first question: God did not create Satan. To answer the second question: I will speculate that Satan really believes he will win. |
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3 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | Hank | 166799 | ||
atdcross: Please supply book, chapter and verse to support your statement, "God did not create Satan." (If God did not create Satan, then who did?) --Hank | ||||||
4 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 166804 | ||
It is not in the Bible that God created Satan so I am unmable to show it. However, God did not create an evil being. If he did, then he would be the Creator and author of evil. Scholars seem to acknowledge that there is a hint in the Bible that God created an angel who was perfect and beautiful. This particular angel, in turn, rebelled against God and was thereafter given the name "Satan". It can be said that God created an angel who, it seems, was innocent and morally good by his obedience to God for a time until he turned against God. However, to say that God created Satan would be misconstrued to suggest that God created and is thereby the author of evil; the term "Satan" suggests his evil nature. God did not create a being with an evil nature, at least, I do not see the chapter and verse where it states he did. From my perspective, I think its more correct to say that God created an angel(s) who later rebelled against God. |
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5 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | John_Jacob | 166805 | ||
It is in the Bible that God created "Satan", His (it has no gender but for understanding I will use this pronoun) name originally is Lucifer. Eph 3:9, Col 1:16, and Rev 4:11. He was the leader of the Heavenly Chior, the most Beatiful of all the angels. He was thrown down, away and out of God's Holy presence because He wanted to be God. Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. As you've read Lucifer was created Holy, perfect, as are all God's Creations, but he had to go muddle (jack) things up by trying to be God, in short he sinned. nothing unholy/unperfect is to be in God's presence, so he got thrown away. He made the decision to messup, making him unperfect. hope this helps, john. |
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6 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 166817 | ||
Again, I do not find in the Bible that God created Satan and neither do the verses you cite affirm it. They may read that God created Lucifer. That he became evil and, changed in name and character, turned into Satan is not by virtue of his being created. If the scholars are correct that Ezek 28:11ff (along with Isa 11) refers to Satan, then notice what is written: "You ["Lucifer"] were once an example of perfection...your conduct was perfect from the day you were created" (cf.1-15a TEV). This is the description of the angel who is "Bright Morning Star" (i.e. Lucifer; cf. Isa 14:12) as created. God created him for good and not for evil; he was endowed with free will to choose what is good. At this point there is no evil. This angel maintained right conduct before God but only for an unknown amount of time; he maintained the very purpose for which he was created "until [he] began to do evil" (Ezk 28:15b). Satan created evil. There was no evil until "Lucifer" acted in rebellion against God (Isa 14:13-14 TEV). It seems to me that evil is not so much a thing that is created; it is an act that a free will being commits. Without the existence of evil beings there is no evil. As such, evil began with this rebellious angel; if one wants to say evil was created, then it was "created," not by God, but by "Lucifer". Therefore, to say, "God created Satan," is to say God created an evil being. God does not create evil beings; he may have allowed them to exist but he has not created them. Therefore, one may say, God created "Lucifer" but "Lucifer" created evil. |
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7 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 166823 | ||
Hi Atdcross, Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. John 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. These are two verses, and there are more, that tell us Jesus created everything that was created. As we talk about Satan, we are talking about a being, who had a beginning, and was created, therefore, Jesus created Satan. The name we know a creature by is not the creature itself. So whether we call this being Lucifer, or Satan, or the devil, we are talking about a being that was created, and being created, was created by Jesus. Evil is not a "thing" that is created. Evil is the description of actions done be, or qualities possessed by a thing. But "evil" is not the thing itself. So God can be the creator of a being, without being the "creator" of evil. What God does is not evil, however, what is done by the creatures He created may be good or evil, since He gave to them the capacity to choose. Albert Einstein described evil as simply the absence of good, as darkness is the absence of light. Evil need not be created. Evil exists when a creature with choice choose rebellion against God. But the simple truth of Scripture is that if something or someone exists, aside from God Himself, then God created it or them. Love in Christ, Mark |
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8 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 166840 | ||
It seems we agree, especially your when you state, "God can be the creator of a being, without being the 'creator' of evil." If the scholars are correct and Lucifer is Satan, then God created Lucifer but not Satan, as I suggested that the name denotes his character and conduct. As such, my objection would be against using the phrase, "God created Satan." I think it is misleading and can be misunderstood as God having created evil or an evil being. |
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