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1 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | JimmyHen | 160012 | ||
im sorry Mark, i have to disagree on all accounts, for one, as you stated, Muhammed claimed to be a prophet, but not just a prophet, the Last Prophet of God, and as you might study and learn, he is annointed himself above all other prophets, making him a messiah, christ, and therefore, he is a false christ, now come on, there are many false christs, not all say they are christs, they use other terms to describe themself, for example, master, messiah, king, and so forth are all words used to describe a messiah, a saviour, anyways, think about it, if not, who would qualify as a false christ? only a person who claims to be christ would be a false christ? the only person who fits that category might be Jesus, and he is no false christ, i assure you, and i assure you, when Jesus issues this warning, it is not a blank warning, its very real, and its happening and has been happening for quite some time, as for this mystical "miracle" your waiting for, your going to end up waiting for ever if your looking for a magic show, and again, Jesus says "signs" and "Wonders" not miracles, or impossibilities, nor magic shows, just signs and wonders, and yes, 9-11 was a sign, and a wonder, remember, its not God preforming these signs and wonders, its the false christs, and false prophets, think about it, its what these muslims are doing today, and they, up to now, have even you decieved, but please my friend, think about this and respond to me with your thoughts, thank you | ||||||
2 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 160042 | ||
Jimmy, How is 9/11 any more of a sign and wonder than the nuclear bombs used in Japan? Or countless other attacks of one nation, group, or person upon another? Is the ability to send a "suicide" attacker, whether with bomb, bullet, bus, or airliner the "signs and wonders" that Jesus was talking about? That's not the Biblical context, as Jesus and the apostles showed "signs and wonders" to verify their message. Their signs were miracles, not bombings. Anyone can build a bomb, or fly a plane into a building. As I said, I am not very familiar with the Quran, as I use the majority of my time in Bible study. It seems to me that you are trying to fit the Muslims into a mold in which they may not exactly fit. If you want to make Osama bin Laden to be the anti-christ, (by which I am assuming that you mean the beast from the sea, as spoken of in the Revelation, since this is what most people mean when they say "antichrist"), he has not done those things that would qualify him to be Biblically identified as such, so anything else is simply speculation. Is Osama a false Christ? I haven't seen that evidence from him, but if you have, ok. Is Osama the "prince that is to come"? Does he strike you as the one Isreal will make their covenant with? The beasts from the sea and the earth will do miracles, including calling fire down from the sky. Jesus said false Christs would do signs and wonders, to deceive even the elect! Does anyone in Isreal even suspect that Osama bin Laden is their Messiah? Or from the other standpoint, does anyone in the Church suspect he is Jesus? Not to my knowledge. He is a terrorist; one of many. So if these "signs and wonders" are to deceive the elect, well, they are not working very well. I already knew you disagreed with me. You presented your thoughts, and asked if anyone disagreed. Did you do that so that you could use me as your soapbox, or because you honestly wanted to hear another's opinion? It is a simple thing to say that someone who disagrees with you is deceived. It is a much more difficult thing to authenticate your claims. Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | JimmyHen | 160096 | ||
well Mark, thank you for your response, many things here my friend, you backed nothing up with scripture, for one, 9-11 was carried out by individuals seperated from any govt, this is much different then people representing a govt, where do you get this correlation between miracles of God with signs and wonders carried out by wicked men? i never said Usama is a christ, and no where in the Bible does it say Israel will look to the anti christ as their christ, usama bin laden's name is chanted at soccer games in third world countries, he is the most revered muslim in the world, he represents all islamic terrorist organization, hamas included, if Israel makes a pact with hamas, it would be no different then making it with usama, they are all tied together, and the elect are those who beleive, and the Jews are the Jews, lets no confuse the 2, but the main point i want to share with you is that these signs and wonders preformed by false messiahs, and false teachers, will not be miracles, and there is no indication what so ever that they will be miracles, and i contend to you that you my friend, have been decieved by these attacks on our country, these people have you denying who they are, you even reject their ways as evil and wicked, further more, which is worse, you are influencing others to be decieved by these people, whether you accept it or not, all muslims support usama and all muslims are working together to get America and the rest of the world to convert to islam, its what is taught in all of islam, the quran, the hadiths, and from all the clerics and those who you call terrorist, which by the way, the terrorist are the true muslims, they are the ones who are most like muhammed,d muhammed killed thousands of people, chopped off heads, and the works, think about that, and realize, to be a Christian, is to be like Jesus, to be a muslim is to be like muhammed, even muslims call muhammed the messiah, you should know, if not before, at least now, that messiah and christ mean the same thing |
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4 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | BradK | 160099 | ||
Hello Jimmy, Unless I'm missing something here, you were the one who initiated the question, asking, "tell me what you think". Several of us have, my friend. As I recall you did not give much "backing with scripture" yourself. Might I ask what is it you're looking for? I'm a little bothered by your claim to have special knowledge that the rest of us are lacking:-( I guess I'm not clear on where you're going with this scenario. As I stated before, the burden or proof is on you to prove your contention. As this is a Study bible Forum, we should probably stick to the study of scripture and leave current events to another, more suited forum. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK PS- Punctuation? |
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