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1 | Where do I find Paul's death in Rome? | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 100503 | ||
Dee1Rose, The answer to your question is not in the Bible, but the Early Church Father's in their writings indicate that Paul died in Rome. Below is an excert from a larger article on St. Paul with the link to the whole article which address also gives a chronology of Paul's life and work. "Ancient tradition makes it possible to establish the following points: (1) Paul suffered martyrdom near Rome at a place called Aquae Salviae (now Tre Fontane), somewhat east of the Ostian Way, about two miles from the splendid Basilica of San Paolo fuori le mura which marks his burial place. (2) The martyrdom took place towards the end of the reign of Nero, in the twelfth year (St. Epiphanius), the thirteenth (Euthalius), or the fourteenth (St. Jerome). (3) According to the most common opinion, Paul suffered in the same year and on the same day as Peter; several Latin Fathers contend that it was on the same day but not in the same year; the oldest witness, St. Dionysius the Corinthian, says only kata ton auton kairon, which may be translated "at the same time" or "about the same time". (4) From time immemorial the solemnity of the Apostles Peter and Paul has been celebrated on 29 June, which is the anniversary either of their death or of the translation of their relics Formerly the pope, after having pontificated in the Basilica of St. Peter, went with his attendants to that of St. Paul, but the distance between the two basilicas (about five miles) rendered the double ceremony too exhausting, especially at that season of the year. Thus arose the prevailing custom of transferring to the next day (30 June) the Commemoration of St. Paul. The feast of the Conversion of St. Paul (25 January) is of comparatively recent origin. There is reason for believing that the day was first observed to mark the translation of the relics of St. Paul at Rome, for so it appears in the Hieronymian Martyrology. It is unknown to the Greek Church (Dowden, "The Church Year and Kalendar", Cambridge, 1910, 69; cf. Duchesne, "Origines du culte chrétien", Paris, 1898, 265-72; McClure, "Christian Worship", London, 1903, 277-81)." http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11567b.htm Emmaus |
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2 | Where do I find Paul's death in Rome? | Bible general Archive 2 | Aixen7z4 | 100504 | ||
Dear Emmaus: The extra information seems interesting, although I must confess I only glanced through it. Truth is, I don't know if I can trust that information, or if it is useful. Notice that the questioner asked specifically: "(In) what books in the bible would I find what happened ...?". I wonder why it was not simply "Where would I find information about what happened ...?". This person seems to place information from the Bible in a special category. I would like to get a little taste for the tradition that values non-Biblical information along with Biblical information. What if the person had asked, "In what books in the Bible would I find what happened to Mary next?" Is it enough to say that that information is not in the Bible? Or can we with confidence present other information from outside of the Bible? |
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3 | Where do I find Paul's death in Rome? | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 100508 | ||
Axien, Della is correct to place information (Revelation)from the Bible in a special category. However, it is also interesting to note she assumed that information about Pauls' death was in the Bible when it is not. This illustrate the facts that Christian tradition based on the writings of the Early Father's of the Church is deeply ingrained even among parts of Christianity who normally profess an aversion to tradition on the grounds that it is perceived to be a Catholic thing. The writings of the Church Father's shed much light on what Early Christians believed and how they interpreted Scripture. They also provide historical facts that are useful and interesting in understanding early Chritianity history. But they are not "gospel" in the sense that they are the Revelation of God we find in New Testament Scripture which is focued on the virgin bith, passion, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ. I think that it is also important to know the Church Father's in order to combat the many false ne0-Gnostic teachings currently circulating in the general public as well as among ill informed Chritians. These Father's were already dealing with the same issues and hersies in the early centuries of the Church. I wil work up a list of books you may wish to consider. Emmaus |
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4 | Where do I find Paul's death in Rome? | Bible general Archive 2 | Aixen7z4 | 100518 | ||
My friend, Emmaus, I agree that false teaching came early into the church and it is still around today. Peter said way back then (2 Peter 2:1) that "there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you". How do we combat their teachings? I think of the words of the Lord. In Mathew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures". The scriptures. The scriptures. That is what keeps us from erring. We must know the scriptures. I have read a few secular books in my time. In some circles I cannot say this, but I'll say here: I have lost my taste for them. I either find to be in agreement with the scriptures, in which case I find them superfluous, or they are in disagreement with the scriptures and I find them distasteful. I still read one now and then, even as I read the postings on the forums. But mostly, I must say, I read the Bible. |
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