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1 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reformer Joe | 96403 | ||
"(Gal 3:28) reads "There is (now no distinction)neither Jew neither Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is not male and female;for you are all one in Christ Jesus." And that is referring to participating in justification, the promise God made to Abraham and his spiritual seed. It is not referring to roles in the home and in the church. "And you are free to believe as you wish." Sure I am. We both are. Freedom to believe doesn't make us right, however. --Joe! |
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2 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | cajam | 96667 | ||
Who do you think the spirtual seed is? It is the Church (THE Body of Christ). Then, how can you say it is not referring to roles in the church.As for the home I never applied it to the home.I have did all that I could to show you the difference, that all scripture that you have been using do not apply to both.Because of a lack of understanding I have been accused of things that I did not say. | ||||||
3 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reformer Joe | 96709 | ||
"Who do you think the spirtual seed is?" Jesus Christ and all those who are in Christ. "Then, how can you say it is not referring to roles in the church." Because in the context of Galatians Paul is speaking of justification, not of church government. My wife is just as saved as I am, but I am still her head. My wife is just as saved as my pastor, but there are still qualifications for overseers in the church, and one of those is that the overseer is to be a man. "As for the home I never applied it to the home.I have did all that I could to show you the difference, that all scripture that you have been using do not apply to both." But they are related. The household of God (the church) and my household speak of the way God has created the universe. Let's look at the paradigmatic couple: Eve was created to help Adam, not to lead Adam. People use the same arguments that you are using in support of women elders as people use to suggest that women are not to submit to their husbands. Galatians 3:28 is unfailingly the first verse they bring up. Therefore, while the government of the home and the church deal with two different spheres, they are related. --Joe! |
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4 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | cajam | 96779 | ||
I can't help it that other people use the same arguments that I used. Look back over my notes.No where did I say that a husband was not head.Nor did I ever say that a wife could not be subject to her Husband.To the contrary.Also where did you get that the household of God (the church) and your household speak of the way God created the Universe.Gal 3:28 is just as good as the rest of the bible when rightly divided. I did not misuse that verse to say that the husband was not head.I don't know how you church is set-up but because a woman may preach do not make her an Elder. She can not be an Elder in our churches, even a woman Pastor is not an Elder. I never tried to support that either. It is not fair to continue to say things I did not say. Also what we call the "Body of Christ" if the Unseen Church. It is not the visible Assembly for this contain "wheat" Our church goverment takes care of the visible Church though it may be of help to the Body. The government of the home and the Church may seem related but they are not the same.I understand the relationship you are drawning between the two. | ||||||
5 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reformer Joe | 96826 | ||
"No where did I say that a husband was not head." No, but what you are saying is that a woman can exercise authority over a man in the local congregation. Not biblical. "Also where did you get that the household of God (the church) and your household speak of the way God created the Universe.Gal 3:28 is just as good as the rest of the bible when rightly divided." And I believe I did do just that. "I don't know how you church is set-up but because a woman may preach do not make her an Elder." There is no biblical distinction between preachers in a church and overseers. The preacher is an elder in the church. --Joe! |
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6 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | Bible general Archive 2 | fran1946 | 96833 | ||
read Acts 2:17-18 "in the last days I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daugthers shall prophesy. when a lady is bringing a message it dose not mean that she is in control nor is she excersing aurthority. she is obeying the spirit of God and delivering his message to his people. besides when we are preaching God's word , it is not us that delivers the message , it is the spirit of God that is controlling, because with out God or the guidiance of the Holy Ghost , we could do nothing within ourselves, and the same thing goes for a male also. God calls whom He pleases, male or female. When Jesus gave Mary the message to tell the deciples that he had risen, she was not exercising aurthority, she was delivering a message . Love and peace always, and do be blessed of the Lord. | ||||||