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1 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | itiswritten | 83398 | ||
Dear Student7300, The scriptures can stand for more than one thing at the same time. This is not unusual. For instance, Daniel 9:23-27 speaks of the time between the Testaments when Antiochus Epiphanes defiled the temple but along with Matthew 24:15, it also speaks of the second coming of Christ, after the appearance of the antichrist on the scene. In Isaiah 14, it clearly states the name Lucifer, which is a name of Satan. Satan itself means "the adversary." That is merely one of his titles. Lucifer was his original name as a covering angel of God's glory. Lucifer means LIGHT. Lucifer continues to go before God and accuse us. When Jesus sent out 70 believers and told them to heal and perform miracles in his name, he also said that he saw Satan fall from the heavens much the same as it is stated in Isaiah 14. I believe it does stand for the earthly ruler, but I believe it also stands for the devil. I know this can be disconserting, but continued fellowship with the Lord and study of the word of God will make it easier to discern what the Lord is telling you. II Timothy 2:15 says "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Do not be upset; pray to the Lord and praise him and continue to study the scriptures and it will get clearer and clearer as you go on. It is very commendable that you want to be accurate and not just accept anything simply because someone else says its so, if you do not see it. Jesus approves of your attitude. Remember also that the Holy Spirit will remind you of whatever God has taught you through His Word. (John 14:26). So, keep studying, keep reading the word, and the Lord through His Holy Spirit will help you make more and more sense of it as time goes on. I hope this is helpful to you. Itiswritten |
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2 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | STUDENT7300 | 83407 | ||
Dear Christian, The Lockman Foundation would tend to disagree with you and with all of the Christian segment that hold the view that the Lucifer of Isaiah 14:12 is a reference to Satan. Listen to their footnote in the Amplified Bible in relation to this passage: The Hebrew for this expression--"light-bringer" or "shining one"--is translated "Lucifer" in The Latin Vulgate, and is thus translated in the King James Version. But because of the association of that name with Satan, it is not now used in this and other translations. Some students feel that the application of the name Lucifer to Satan, in spite of the long and confident teaching to that effect, is erroneous. The application of the name to Satan has existed since the third century A.D., and is based on the supposition that Luke 10:18 is an explanation of Isa. 14:12, which many authorities believe is not true. "Lucifer," the light-bringer, is the Latin equivalent of the Greek word "Phosphoros," which is used as a title of Christ in II Pet. 1:19 and corresponds to the name "radiant and brilliant Morning Star" in Rev. 22:16, a name Jesus called Himself. This passage here in Isa. 14:13 clearly applies to the king of Babylon. And all I am saying is that I am in complete agreement with this statement. Blessings. STUDENT7300 |
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3 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | Truthfinder | 83412 | ||
Well put Student7300, The context clearly shows that the Hebrew here is Not referencing Satan, but is a descriptive designation applied to the “king of Babylon.” (Isa 14:4, 12) The Hebrew expression is thus properly translated in the NWT, Ro, Yg) “shinning one” and comes from a root meaning “shine.” (Job 29:3) The rendering “Lucifer” (KJ, Da) is derived from the Latin Vulgate and is in error. The “shining one” is represented as saying in his heart: “Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting.” (Isa 14:13) Biblical evidence points to Mount Zion as the “mountain of meeting.” So, since stars can refer to kings (Nu 24:17; Re 22:16), “the stars of God” must be the kings of the Davidic line who ruled from Mount Zion. The “king of Babylon” (the dynasty of Babylonian kings), reflecting the attitude of Satan the god of this system of things, indicated his ambition to lift up his throne “above the stars of God” by desiring to make the kings of the line of David mere vassals and then finally to dethrone them. Like stars that shed light, the “king of Babylon” shone brightly in the ancient world and could be termed “shining one.” Truthfinder |
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