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1 | Is predestination true? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 73818 | ||
Hi Tim, This is an excellent point. You have made me look at the passage again and make some changes in pencil to my personal copy of the Scriptures. I see now in my Study Bible in the margin it says for verse 8 [i.e. that salvation]. Which is the point that you made. Tim, as far as my personal study is concerned, I put this pronoun of His involvement in the process of salvation at the beginning of chapter 2. I think it important that this pronoun be counted. Ephesians 2:1, "And you [He made alive] who were dead in trespasses and sins,..." In other words this pronoun can be put here in verse 1 just as verse 5 infers that He is acting (even when we were dead); or it can be put in verse 5 where the "[He] made us alive together" is understood in the Greek. And God is active in both Jew and Gentile as we can see by comparing verse one with verse 12. At one time we were all dead in our trespasses and sins, (separate from Christ) but now...Ephesians 2:13, "But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were afar off have been brought near by the blood of (*Christ) Grace [salvation] is the gift of (*God), verse 8. We are made alive together with (*Christ), [by grace you have been saved] verse 5. We are under (*His) feet. 1:22 Because of the surpassing greatness of (His) power toward us who believe. 1:19 That's how I see it now. Thanks again, Tim. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Is predestination true? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 73825 | ||
P.S. Looking back on our lives do we not all see that if it were not for the grace of God... Looking back still further in my previous post we see in Ephesians 1:15, "...having heard of the faith in the Lord (Jesus) which exists among you, and your love for all the saints..." Ephesians 1:11, NKJ, see verse 18 also, "In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of (Him) who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory." Oh, to know Him more. Ephesians 1:17 From the heart, Ray |
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