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1 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | EdB | 59816 | ||
Pastor Glen, John and Makarios I'm not sure why this has become such an issue. Pastor Glen voiced an observation based on scripture, a little human logic and a little conjecture. I see nothing wrong with discussing this anymore than the time spent discussing the age of the earth, did Judas repent, and who did Cain marry. I think there are some hints in the Bible that tell us more about who this unholy allegiance will be as we advance in time. In the 1800’s they couldn’t imagine a world wide monetary system, being able to see things as they happened on the other side of the world, a world wide government trying to impose it’s standards on the world. That is because credit card, satellite TV, and the UN did not exist. By talking about these things does it mean that is exactly how Revelation is going to play out? No but they do offer plausible solutions that may or may not change as our knowledge, technology, sociology changes with time. What we are talking about is what the Bible said was going to be a world monetary system (call it what you want), an ability to see what is happening in Jerusalem when the two witnesses are killed and later resurrected (call that what you want) and a form of government that want to rule the world under the Antichrist (again call it what you will). When these events are given plausible explanations of how they may occur the reader no longer ponders “the how”, but rather “the purpose and intent of the almighty God that is behind it all. In the 1950-90’s the biggest obstacle to peace and freedom of religion was the USSR so naturally they were included in unholy allegiance. Since the USSR has collapsed many are rethinking their position but none the less we are told the enemy of Israel will come from the north. When we speak about it does it really matter if we call it the USSR or Islamic countries to the north, or the Al Quaeda that is presently some of the northern countries. These all are plausible answers to how could this happen. Do we know for sure that is how it is going to happen? No, but we are sure the events described in Revelation are going to happen. I come to my question what is the harm of studying “End Time Prophecy” and offering plausible explanations of how those events may occur? As long as we are not dogmatic and refuse to look at any other evidence there isn’t a problem. If Pastor Glenn wants to pose the question to the forum, could the Al Quaeda be the unholy northern allegiance that attacks Israel, I see no problem and no reason for everyone to jump all over his case. EdB |
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2 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | John Reformed | 59878 | ||
Dear Ed, It is wrong because it makes the church look like a naive group of fanatics. If the media were to take all the wrongheaded claims made by our supposed "leaders" and subject them to the scrutiny of history, they would have a field day. And they would have all the evidence they need to charge that we don't know what we're talking about. Let's stick to the Scripture. It is on that foundation that we can stand solidly. Speculation is based on what? Not the Word alone but a mixture of Word, worldly news reports and human reason. A great recipe for a foundation of sinking sand. I am sick, sick, sick of the endless speculations about who is the anti-christ or the harlot or the ten kings etc. etc. ad nauseum. Face it folks WE DON"T KNOW! And by speculating we may even find ourselves bearing FALSE WITNESS against groups, nations or individuals. Worst of all speculation does not glorify Christ but gives the enemy handfuls of filth to be used to denigrate Him. Eschatology is a very difficult and controversial area of theology. I think it a mistake to base evangelism on the end times. It is meat that even the fathers among us chew very carefully. Our commision is to take the gospel message throughout the world. That alone should keep us busy enough. John |
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3 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | Hank | 59880 | ||
John, strong language but appropriate and well stated, and I agree with every word you said! Three cheers for having the guts to stand by your convictions in condemnation of idle speculation and defense of the proper handling of the truth of God's word. --Hank | ||||||
4 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | EdB | 59890 | ||
Hank Et tu Brutus or something like that I forget may Latin. :-). Let me ask you Hank what do you think God wanted us to do with revelations? Since all we can really do is speculate about it until it actually happens what was God purpose for including it in the Bible? EdB |
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5 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | Hank | 59904 | ||
Ed, the Latin phrase is, "Et tu, Brute." [And thou, Brutus] spoken by the dying Caesar to Brutus, one of his conspirators. I do trust that you don't view me in the same light! --Hank | ||||||
6 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | EdB | 59907 | ||
Hank Aw, I was closer than I suspected, I hadn't used Latin in 39 years when my Latin teacher agreed if I promised to take French the next year you would give me a passing D. That poor French teacher such a dear to have such clutz as me. Hank I was making a stab (pardon the pun) at humor. Hank your my brother wer buds!!!!! EdB |
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