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1 | KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS? | Rev 1:1 | Pastor Glenn | 94643 | ||
Lucantonio, I just looked up your history on this forum. It appears that you only make 1 post every 9 months. :o) Rev 19:16 uses Kurios kurios; from kuros (authority); lord, master:-- I maintain that while the Son is not the same "person" as the Father, Jesus Christ (the Son) is Yhvh (i.e.Yehovah). You need to go to post ID 88403 and read what we have already discussed before we continue. Will you require 9 more months? ;-) Pastor Glenn |
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2 | KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS? | Rev 1:1 | Truthfinder | 94795 | ||
Hi Pastor Glenn, When you write something without any proof, I call it assertion. I have no problem with asserting per se. Now I do have a problem with you asserting that the person the Father Jehovah, is one and the same as the person Son Jesus. The dogma of the Trinity itself states that God is “one God in three Persons.” Each is said to be without beginning, having existed for eternity. Each is said to be almighty, with each neither greater nor lesser than the others. These different "persons", have names, and only the Father's name is Jehovah. Why are you making the different "person's" names the same. I don't believe that that is what the bishops nor Constantine at the Council of Nicaea ever said. If I am wrong please show me. The nature of Jesus was settled but the different persons still had different names. Truthfinder |
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3 | KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS? | Rev 1:1 | Pastor Glenn | 94811 | ||
Truthfinder, You said: "And Heb. 1:8-12 reads, NWT, ” 8 But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever And Psalm 102:25 reads, NWT, 25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, And the heavens are the work of your hands. Here the psalmist was talking about Jehovah God, but the apostle Paul applied these words to Jesus Christ as you say in Hebrews 1:10, 11 As it turns out, these words apply to Jesus, for he acted as Jehovah’s Agent in creating the universe just as Colossians 1:15, 16 tells us. So Jesus, too, could be said to have “laid the foundations of the earth.” Yes, all three were involved in creating the universe and man. (Let us..), God’s active force or holy, God’s Son and he himself. Truthfinder" But now you say "When you write something without any proof, I call it assertion. I have no problem with asserting per se. Now I do have a problem with you asserting that the person the Father Jehovah, is one and the same as the person Son Jesus." So Truthfinder, what part of your statement are you now taking back? Exodus 6:3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name LORD[6:3 Hebrew [YHWH, ] traditionally [Jehovah] ] I was not known to them. Exodus 3:15 Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: "The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.' Whether "Jehovah" is the Father's personal name or a title for the Godhead or for the person of Jesus (the Word) is for you to ponder. The bottom line is that as for the name Jesus Christ: Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." Again, notice that David called Christ Lord and also Rev 19:16 calls Him "LORD OF LORDS". What are the implications? What is the significance? Pastor Glenn |
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