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1 | Answering Baptismal Regenerationalist | 1 Pet 3:21 | Rowdy | 113679 | ||
I'm sorry but I must differ with you on this subject. We are certainly not saved by faith alone. James makes this very clear in Chapter 2. One must read the whole Bible, "rightly dividing God's Word." Tell me...based on your statement, "by faith alone that we are saved," you seem to leave out other important steps of salvation such as repentance and confession. Are you actually trying to say that or did you leave them out by oversight? Anyway, I'd have to disagree with you regardless of your answer. We MUST see ourselves as in need of obeying ALL of God's commands so as to qualify for the Holy Spirit's gift of salvation. I keep on saying these kind of statements but no one can show me in God's Word where a person is actually saved or is actually pronounced a christian after showing his faith only. I've issued this challenge once before and would like to reiterate it to you: Can you cite a single verse in the Bible where it specifically says the words "faith only" or where a person is described saved or is pronounced a christian after showing his "faith only" without baptism or any other act of obedience to God? I've mentioned this comparison before. When does a couple get to enjoy the full legal status of marriage? AFTER the ceremony is performed or the documents are signed and processed by the court appointed official of the respective state in which the marriage takes place. As we all know, there is some small variances from state to state. My point is: the legal recognition of that marriage is very important in a court of law. If one partner of that couple dies before that legal point of marriage is consemated, there is no marriage, no transferance of property, no other benefits derived from the marriage attempted. In our world of sinful short sightedness, we recognize the importance of such relationships and the point of time of that legal recognition. Don't you think it's going to matter to the God of our universe when we "put on Christ?" When we recognize the tremendous cost and give up total control of our lives to our God, all people agree this is a major watershed in one's life. Every christian I know remembers vividly when and where they were baptized. They remember the circumstances or at least most of them. It's the point in your life when you know you've obeyed every one of God's commands and can approach God both in prayer and on Judgment Day with every confidence that you've complied with His Son's whole Last Will and Testament. Before that point, everything is academic and worthy of discussion. When someone hesitates or puts a significant amount of time before being baptized, they are taking a chance they might not live another minute or maybe even face the Lord's second coming. Now, you're going to say "What about the thief on the cross?" or "What about the person that dies of a heart attack just before being baptized?" Those kind of questions are basically left up for God. We can speculate and we can discuss those issues as long as you like but the bottom line is, we don't have an authoritative answer. This I know, we must obey God to be found pleasing in His sight. I'm still interested in your response, especially to the challenge. I pray God blesses you in your study. |
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2 | When were Cornelius and comapny saved? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 113688 | ||
Scripture ... Acts 11:44-48 ................... Was Cornelius and comapny saved (vv 44-46) before they were baptized (vv 47-48)? I also see there is nothing mentioned about faith, belief, confession, repentance. These may hve to be implied ... but it is clear that baptism was after salvation. |
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3 | When were Cornelius and comapny saved? | 1 Pet 3:21 | CDBJ | 113715 | ||
Hello Rowdy, According to your definition for salvation you might not be saved yet; what if you are overlooking one of God’s commands, legally, by what you have said that might be the case? Maybe you are overlooking 17 of God’s commands by the way, how many are there, I have never heard the exact amount. Have you actually sold all of your positions yet and given the money to the poor? It sounds like you still trying to do something so you can have eternal life? Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? It doesn’t look like you have sold everything yet because you are still on the Internet! Food for thought, don’t you think? It sounds like you sure are trying hard but how are you actually doing according to God’s standard, he does have a standard you know? Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. You better forget the work mentioned in James until you get the gift. It sound like you are putting the cart before the horse, and you haven’t even got a horse yet. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; With all your keeping and doing and trying where does grace fit into the picture or is grace no longer grace? Ephes. 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. You are trying to do something to get the GIFT, and in that case it won’t be a gift; you are going to receive wages and the only wages we can receive is death. That doesn’t sound like good new to me, CDBJ |
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4 | When were Cornelius and comapny saved? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Rowdy | 118100 | ||
Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Any serious Bible student recognizes the NT sub-divides into 2 different basic categories. The conversion of all unbelievers into christians and then their continued growth and maturity in a spiritual relationship with our Lord. A person could compare this to the process of gaining an education during the childhood phase of each human being, on through high school and/or college, and then move on to the next major phase of life, employment and a continued life of learning. The most important thing to our God is to get us in His family headed to His home in Heaven. He wants all to keep studying His Word, keep growing in faith and maturity in His love and the ways we show His love to our fellow man, just as His Son said upon His farewell to His beloved disciples. God bless. --Rowdy |
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