Results 1 - 5 of 5
|
|
|||||
Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Ordered by Verse | ||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1 | seeking repentance | Heb 12:17 | New Creature | 110106 | ||
My question is based on the following verse. Heb. 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Question; If I am reading this verse in the proper context, it appears to me that Esau sought repentance, but could not find it. If that is the actual case then is it also possible for others to seek repenatnce without finding it? In what instance could this be possible? I am curious because in another verse I read where God commands all to repent. So does God command us to do something that may be an impossibility? Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent Please give me some scriptural context to base your opinion on Peace New Creature |
||||||
2 | seeking repentance | Heb 12:17 | terrib | 110107 | ||
New Creature, Strong's Dictionary G3341 metanoia met-an'-oy-ah From G3340; (subjectively) compunction (for guilt, including reformation); by implication reversal (of [another’s] decision): - repentance. Conteporary English Version (CEV): (Heb 12:17) You know how he later wanted it back. But there was nothing he could do to change things, even though he begged his father and cried. American Standard Version (ASV): (Heb 12:17) For ye know that even when he afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no place for a change of mind in his father, though he sought it diligently with tears. A quote from "Albert Barne's Notes on the Bible": "For he found no place of repentance - Margin, “Way to change his mind,” That is, no place for repentance “in the mind of isaac,” or no way to change his mind. It does not mean that Esau earnestly sought to repent and could not, but that when once the blessing had passed the lips of his father, he found it impossible to change it. Isaac firmly declared that he had “pronounced” the blessing, and though it had been obtained by fraud, yet as it was of the nature of a divine prediction, it could not now be changed. He had not indeed intended that it should be thus. He had pronounced a blessing on another which had been designed for him. But still the benediction had been given. The prophetic words had been pronounced. By divine direction the truth had been spoken, and how could it be changed? It was impossible now to reverse the divine purposes in the case, and hence, the “blessing” must stand as it had been spoken. Isaac did, however, all that could be done. He gave a benediction to his son Esau, though of far inferior value to what he had pronounced on the fraudulent Jacob;" I think of an unbeliever calling upon the Lord after the saints are collected from the Earth. The Promise was delivered, the promise of redemption, so as with Isaac, Isaac delivered to Jacob the promise of inheritance. What can one do if one doesn't answer the last call? Peace |
||||||
3 | seeking repentance | Heb 12:17 | Ray | 110110 | ||
Hi terrib, Good answer. The version that I found that expressed it well was the N.E.B. for Hebrews 12:17, "He sold his birthright for a single meal, and you know that although he wanted afterwards to claim the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no way open for second thoughts, although he strove, to the point of tears, to find one." The second thoughts, or after-thoughts were what weren't available to Isaac. Or for Esau for that matter; for the birthright was not available to him any longer. Genesis 27:38, NASB, "And Esau said to his father, "Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me, even me also, O my father." So Esau lifted his voice and wept." Welcome to the forum. From the heart, Ray |
||||||
4 | seeking repentance | Heb 12:17 | terrib | 110111 | ||
Ray, You wrote: "for the birthright was not available to him any longer." Exactly! And this is what will happen after the harvest. The door will be shut. And as in the parable (Luke 16:19) of Lazarus wanting a bit of water, the time will be too late. So, live well, let your light shine and Glorify God the Father in all you do. p.s. I have watched this forum for some time and I enjoy reading many of the gifted answers. |
||||||
5 | seeking repentance | Heb 12:17 | Ray | 110137 | ||
Hi terrib, Just as when the door of the ark was shut, it was too late to get in. As far as the parable (if indeed it is a parable) of the rich man and Lazarus is concerned, I had two thoughts. First of all, the need of water was of the rich man; and the rich man wanted Lazarus to get it for him. However, we can reflect on Lazarus and Isaac both being figures of people wanting to do something for someone and unable to do so. We are all responsible for our own lives, are we not. I appreciate your thought of glorifying God in all that we do. When those times of temptation to sin, (to think of desires of the present instead of the blessings of the future as in Esau's case) present themselves we'll have to remember or find out that there are consequences to our actions. But I find in looking at Genesis this morning, how much God has blessed us. He started in Genesis 1:27,28, "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. And (God) blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." Genesis ends with the blessing from the (Almighty) who blesses us with blessings from heaven above, and Joseph says that God will surely take care of you, or visit you. So I won't attempt to say which Person blesses or is with us the most, but I glorify our triune God with you. From the heart, Ray |
||||||
Up | Down | |||
Questions and/or Subjects for Heb 12:17 | Author | ||
|
Searcher56 | ||
|
New Creature | ||
|
terrib | ||
|
Ray | ||
|
terrib | ||
|
Ray |