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1 | I can use Galatians 4:16 as a support. | 1 Tim 5:19 | TTime | 184463 | ||
Greetings Jeff, Please forgive me, in all "my" getting I like to get understanding...I appreciate your response, I just think I cannot be direct without being direct, if that makes sense. Now, I totally agree with you, as far as your upcoming dinner party, as I have/will be in the same situation. Again, I would be concerned if you are calling yourself a "Christian" representing Christ, and would be hanging in bars, clubs, drinking, etc.with the "very" people you say you are trying to win to Christ. I know we are suppose to hate the sin, but love the sinner as Christ did for us....I feel that we must allow those in our evvironment to come UP to the word of God, and not try to bring the word of God to our standards. I pray I am clear, I simply wanted to express the concern of having a leader with a reputation of drinking, etc, and hanging with people not claiming salvation, and then when I try to witness, they basically say to me, your "leader" I will leave it at that, was just at my house.....I trust you feel me, if not please pray if nothing else...The Bible says judgment will begin at the house of God, and I have heard in about 10 days, very tragic situations concerning people who did as Proverbs 26:11 says, one has been hospitalized with emergency surgery from DUI, and one is dead from a drug overdose..I am just concerning about the body of Christ. My desire is to try to represent him well, try NOT to bring any shame to him, and IF I do, own it, not justify... God Bless, and enjoy your dinner, (smile) |
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2 | I can use Galatians 4:16 as a support. | 1 Tim 5:19 | jlhetrick | 184475 | ||
Greetings TTime, thank you for your comments. I'm glad your concerned about the witness of Christians and I pray for a successful outcome regarding your current struggles. I do appreciate what you are going through. In my years as a Christian I have been disappointed by many in the church regarding their sin. In time though, I finally realized that my attention to their sinfulness did more to take time, energy, and effort away from dealing with my own sin. It's like racism. Focusing on the perceived shortcomings of the other in order to feel superior. It's a tragic trap to get caught up in. I agree that it is inappropriate for any Christian to be participating in any sin at any time for any reason. Any Christian, including one in a leadership position, needs to be held accountable when continuing willfully in sin. If you find it necessary to take on that role of disciplinary yourself, I hope this exchange has given you enough to think about during the course. One final thought and passage that hopefully will help. "Matt 7:1-5 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. " NKJV It is not my intention to call you the "hypocrite" but to encourage you to ensure that you are not. God bless, Jeff |
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3 | I can use Galatians 4:16 as a support. | 1 Tim 5:19 | TTime | 184476 | ||
Thanks Jeff, I will continue to pray, I am very hard on myself, some have said to hard, regardless, I don't expect others to uphold God's word, while I do not...exactly my issue, if I have to comply, so should we all....in closing this discussion, with statements like that, I guess maybe that is why people feel it ok not to confront wrong doing, I guess maybe Prophet Nathan should not have confronted David about his adulterous behavior...that said I hope I have not offended you by discussing this....Again, I cannot expect to hold back discipline with my children because I know that I am not perfect...However, my children can attest that I allow them to speak to me "with respect" if they feel like I am in error, as a matter of fact, my son did a couple of weeks ago, and I DID NOT say, son Judge yourself...I acknowledge my wrong...God Bless!!! Did not mean to offend! |
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