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1 | the Bible Alone | 2 Thess 2:15 | Robin Hass | 170861 | ||
2 Thess 2:15 So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether BY WORD OF MOUTH or by letter from us. Okay, I've checked out previous posts for this verse and have found nothing. The Bible in the aforesaid passage, and other places, teaches the Bible is not the only store-house of divine knowledge, does it not? Here are a few other Scriptures that seem to contradict the doctrine of sola scriptura: 2 Tim 2:2 The things which you have , HEARD FROM ME in the presence of many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. Acts 2:42 They were continually devoting themselves to the APOSTLES' TEACHING and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. This APOSTLES' TEACHING would have been oral teaching surely, none of the books of the New Testament had been written by Acts 2. 1 Thess 4:2 For you know what COMMANDMENTS we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 2 Thes 2:6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. I mention this because the Thessalonian disciples 'know what restrains' from another source than Scripture, as this is not to be found in Scripture but in Paul's oral teaching. 1 Cor 11:34 ...The remaining matters I will arrange when I come, (or in the Amplified '...About the other matters, I will give you directions [personally] when I come.') Presumably, these remaining matters were delivered orally. 1 Cor 11:2 Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you. Presumably this was orally-delivered tradition. 2 Jn 1:12 Having many things to write unto you, I would not [write] with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. A clear reference to teaching that is not paper and ink which will add completion to the disciples' joy. 3 Jn 13 I had many things to write to you, but I am not willing to write them to you with pen and ink; So is the sola scripture (Scripture alone) doctrine 'more biblical than the Bible.' Robin All I can think of in response would be 2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; Where is any reference here to i) the exclusion of Tradition ii) the SUFFICIENCY of Scripture |
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2 | the Bible Alone | 2 Thess 2:15 | hobbs | 170867 | ||
Dear Robin, Why would you assume that the teaching that was given by word of mouth was differnt from that given in writting? John |
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3 | the Bible Alone | 2 Thess 2:15 | hobbs | 170868 | ||
Modern-day converts to Rome, especially those who fall into the EWTN/Scott Hahn/”The Journey Home” style of conversion experience, are zealous for their newfound cause. And they are armed with a legion of heart-tugging audio and video tapes, along with full color magazines and friendly sounding books to add to the force of the appeal. There seems to be something about getting others to “come along” that helps them to be comforted in their own decision to embrace Rome’s authority claims. And the questions that come out over coffee eventually get quite pointed. “So have you ever really thought about why you believe the Bible alone is enough?” Then comes the personal story, “See, I was just like you, and had heard that all my life, but I had just accepted it. But then I started to read the early church fathers, and found out that sola scriptura is really just a human tradition, and we really need an infallible church to guide us into the fullness of the truth, and that the one true church has been around for two thousand years!” You may read James White's entire article at http://www.aomin.org/SS.html |
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4 | Christian tradition | 2 Thess 2:15 | Robin Hass | 170871 | ||
I don't see any engagement with Scripture in the above passage. If you read my profile you'll see I'm coming from the Via Media viewpoint. The issue is whether Scripture makes the claim of Sola Scriptura for itself or whether it teaches Scripture and Tradition (we can dismiss the views the early Church but I'm sure you know the dogma of Bible ALone was not the view of the Church whilst it was thrashing out the great Christological doctrines which were expounded at Nicea and later). Let's chew over the Scripture verses. Answer me this please. If the 27 books of the NT aren't to be found in Scripture, is not the very list itself a Christian tradition. |
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5 | Christian tradition | 2 Thess 2:15 | DocTrinsograce | 170875 | ||
Dear Robin, Sola Scriptura is a fundamental presupposition to the Study Bible Forum -- predication of which is a condition of participation. It is, indeed, fundamental to Christian thought, being fully supported in the kyrigma. It is not a concept invented during the Reformation. Rather it was rediscovered along with the other solas. It is a topic much discussed. Please avail yourself of the Forum Search feature. In Him, Doc |
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6 | Christian tradition | 2 Thess 2:15 | Robin Hass | 170880 | ||
Can you show me where the forum guidelines / rules state Sola Scriptura is a fundamental presupposition to the Study Bible Forum. So you see no conflict with 2 Thess 2:15 and the doctrine of sola scriptura? |
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7 | Christian tradition | 2 Thess 2:15 | DocTrinsograce | 170882 | ||
Dear Robin, See "About the Forum" and "Terms of Use" above. You asked, "So you see no conflict with 2 Thess 2:15 and the doctrine of sola scriptura?" No, I do not. Paul is specifically speaking of the kyrigma. If you are interested, see the Chicago Statement of Biblical Hermeneutics at http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago2.html Again, I commend you to the search function if you have further interest in this topic. You will find complete discussions there. In Him, Doc |
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