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1 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | DocTrinsograce | 144086 | ||
Hi, brother Lionheart... Excuse me if I quibble a little -- you know I can't help it! :-) According to Ephesians 2 (particularly verses 14 through 22), we are already united in the Holy Spirit with all others who are saved. This is a work of God. On the other hand, Ephesians 4:2-3 (ESV) states, "With all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace." I rather think of this as Paul reminding us, "Look, God has assembled this Temple... now that you know the truth, act like it." The struggle is how to accomplish this while earnestly contending for the faith (per Jude 3b). Thank you for your patience, brother. In Him, Doc |
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2 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | Ray | 144094 | ||
Hi DocTrinsograce, He came and preached peace and through Him we have access in one Spirit to the Father. Since the Spirit is not mentioned until verse eighteen, I wonder how you translate/interpret verse sixteen. The choice offered is one of "by it" or "in Himself". Ephesians 2:16, "and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it [margin note, Or, in Himself] having put to death the enmity." From the heart, Ray |
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3 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | DocTrinsograce | 144097 | ||
Hi, brother Ray... See verse 22. Before you ask, yes I believe "Spirit" in that verse should be capitalized. In Him, Doc | ||||||
4 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | Ray | 144098 | ||
Hi DocTrinsograce, I will agree with you for "Spirit" if you will agree with me in "it" for verse 16. I see the "it" as being the cross and the blood of Christ in verse 13. From the heart, Ray |
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5 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | DocTrinsograce | 144099 | ||
Dear Brother Ray, Well, we shouldn't barter over the Word! So, even if you don't agree with me, I'll still agree with you. Okay? The ESV translates verse 16 as "and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility." I'm not sure about the "it" in there. I notice that word "owtos" again. Maybe brother Tim will help us once more. In Him, Doc |
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6 | some people say you must speak in tongue | 1 Cor 12:4 | Ray | 144117 | ||
Hi Doc, My personal study is one of looking at the nouns and pronouns and having them divisible by three. So if I am persuaded to add a pronoun, then I look to drop one, or if I am persuaded to drop a pronoun, I look to add one. It is not a question of bartering with you, but trying to discern the nouns and pronouns of a triune God. We could use help on the Hebrew cross reference for Ephesians 2:17 also. Ephesians 2:17, NASB, "AND HE CAME AND PREACHED PEACE TO YOU WHO WERE FAR AWAY, AND PEACE TO THOSE WHO WERE NEAR." Isaiah 57:19, NASB, "Creating the praise of the lips, "Peace, peace to him who is far and to him who is near," Says the Lord, "and I will heal him."" Ephesians 2:17, NKJ, "And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near." Isaiah 57:19, NKJ, "I create the fruit of the lips: Peace, peace to him who is far off and to him who is near," Says the Lord, "And I will heal him."" Should the "I" be included in the Isaiah 57:19 verse? I believe so, but it would be good to get a scholarly opinion from a language expert. From the heart, Ray |
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