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1 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | motherlove | 111579 | ||
The gift of speaking in tongues is a desired gift Is this gift already in the in the believer only to be manifested as the believer desires |
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2 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | Jesified | 111660 | ||
Well, your longer question and shorter question are slightly different so let me answer it this way. Yes, we should ask God for the gift of tongues if we haven’t already been filled with the Spirit (being born again or born of the Spirit is different then being filled with the spirit). Mark 16:17 starts a list of signs that will follow them that believe, one of which is speaking with new tongues. With the assistance of a concordance, I have found that you could also read the passage as this, "speak in new languages superior to the old." So this passage states that speaking in tongues is superior regular human speech. Now, please don't misunderstand me and take off on that idea. Tongues are useful for 3 main things: edification and as a sign to convey a message, to pray the will of God. You can't just get in the pulpit and preach a message completely in tongues with no interpretation, because that won't do anyone but you any good (1 Cor 14:5). Another individual answered your question with a story about an individual who spoke in an Ethiopian tongue. That would be tongues used as a sign. The third main usage is tongues to pray the will of God. Since you know that utterance of speaking in tongues is given/directed by the Holy Spirit (you referenced 1 Cor 12:11) than you can clearly see that tongues are of God. You can be given the “burden” or a strong urge to pray a certain way or for a certain thing, but if you don’t know how to pray you can always pray in tongues as the Spirit would lead. For example I had the strong unction the other day to pray for Ireland. I didn’t know what about then and I may never. It’s kind of hard for me to explain. As for your second question, the believer is born of the Spirit, but not filled with the Spirit. Born of the Spirit means that you're going to Heaven, you believe in Jesus. Filled with the Spirit, means that you operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the most obvious and usually the first sign of this is speaking in tongues, but that isn't always the case. For more info on tongues I would suggest reading 1 Cor 14. Also, there are some very good books by Kenneth E. Hagin: Baptism in the Holy Spirit, Gifts of the Holy Spirit, and Why Tongues? Even if you don’t agree with his position on tongues, I would suggest reading them purely to be informed on the subject. If anything needs clarification, don’t hesitate to ask. God Bless, Jesified |
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3 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | BradK | 111661 | ||
Jesified, If I might, I'd like to ask 2 questions of you. According to your response,"Yes, we should ask God for the gift of tongues if we haven’t already been filled with the Spirit (being born again or born of the Spirit is different then being filled with the spirit)." How would this line up with the clear statement of Paul in 1 Cor.12:29-30, "All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?" Scripture is quite claer, not ALL have the gift of tongues and the focal point often missed in this passage is love! As to "Mark 16:17 starts a list of signs that will follow them that believe, one of which is speaking with new tongues.", I agree- given the context-that tongues are only ONE of the SIGNS that will follow. What of the rest? Should not we see ALL of them in operation if we're to be consistent? Verse 16, 17 and 18 in context state: "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." It's not the "agreeing or disagreeing" with the position on tongues, it's what does the Word of God say. One can be informed on this subject and not have to read books by Hagin, et al, who are abberational at best and lack a sound Biblical theology. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | Jesified | 111663 | ||
Paul's reference to tongues in 1 Cor 12:29-30 is public tongues. Not all of us are meant to operate in the gift of speaking in tongues publicly and I totally agree in that aspect, but you can still receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit to speak with tongues privately, ie between just you and God. You will notice that Paul also said that "I would that you all speak in tongues..." Why would Paul desire us all to speak in tongues if he knew that it was a direct contradiction to God's direction? You are exactly right, we should ask what the Word of God says, but because we're human all of us won't have the same interpretation of scripture, although we should. I meant agreeing or disagreeing with any preconceived notion of what Kenneth Hagin Ministries stood for. That was more of a lack of eloquence on my part. I was trying to suggest them because they are the best I've read on the subject. You are also right in saying that you can learn about tongues without reading a Kenneth Hagin book. I don't care what pipe the water comes from so long as it's clean water, if you now what I'm saying. God Bless, Jesified |
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5 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | BradK | 111667 | ||
Jesified, I thank you for your response. I might take issue with you regarding your comment, "but you can still receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit to speak with tongues privately, ie between just you and God" I don't see any scriptural warrant for "private tongues". The infilling of the Holy Spirit I received was upon salvation in accord with 1 Cor. 12:13. Certainly we can agree that the Word cannot contradict itself. In answer to your query as to "Why would Paul desire us all to speak in tongues if he knew that it was a direct contradiction to God's direction?", actually it would appear a lessor admonition for us to speak tongues realtive to prohesying based on the passage itself. As the Commentary Critical notes "Translate, “Now I wish you all to speak with tongues (so far am I from thus speaking through having any objection to tongues), but rather in order that (as my ulterior and higher wish for you) ye should prophesy." Prophesying would be greater, because it would be more useful. The whole of 1 Cor. 12-14, based upon my study appears to be more of a corrective toward the improper use of tongues, than it does an endorsement promoting their increased use:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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