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1 | Should we ask God for the gift of tongue | 1 Cor 12:11 | prayon | 111764 | ||
Hi Searcher, If Mark 16:17-18 were meant only for the 11 it would of stated so. When he was refering to the apostles he always stated "the apostles" or "the twelve". Here it says believers therefore it means all believers. If believers meant apostles it would have to mean apostles in every instance it is mentioned. If it had different meanings in 2 different passages it would violate the principles of bible interpretation. Therefore Acts 4:4 "But many of those who had heard the message became believers, so the number of men who believed grew to about 5,000", would mean that those 5000 became apostles because they all spoke with tongues. This isn't possible because it would violate 1Co 12:29 "Not all believers are apostles, are they?..." Act 2:4 "All the believers were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages as the Spirit gave them the ability to speak." This verse is referring to those in the upper room, the 3ooo were from the crowd who heard them speaking. To address your statement of the 120 speaking in known languages - These are languages that the Spirit gave them the ability to speak. If the person already knew the language why did the Holy Spirit have to give them the ability to speak them? The languages they were speaking were unknown to them but others from the crowd recognized them as their own dialects (see vs 7-12.) If they were speaking their own known languages why were they amazed and perplexed? As for the 3000, they were baptized in water as John the baptist had baptized. It does not say anywhere in the passage that they were baptixed with the Holy Spirit as it does in the 5 passages I mentioned. 2:27? Not sure if you got the right scripture here... 4:4 - Here again there is no mention of a baptism of the Holy Ghost. 8:14-17: read on to verses 18-19. Here Simon saw evidence of the Holy Ghost after Peter and John laid hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit (v 17). It is believed that the evidence that Simon saw was them speaking in tongues. 8:34-39 again speaks of a water baptism. It does not mention a baptism of the Holy Spirit. 9:4-19 As you stated he spoke in tongues later Chap 10 and 19 you agree they spoke in tongues. 16:14-15; 31-34: again speaking of a water baptism. Whenever someone was baptized with the Holy Spirit it specifically states that it was the baptism of the Holy spirit. Summary: Four out of 5 cases tongues was the initial evidence. In the 5th case tongues is alluded to. If 100 percent of the cases in Acts the initial evidence of being filled with the Spirit was tongues then tongues must be important. Mark 16:17-18: As you said these signs are to be taken together. I am going to assume that you agree that the name of Jesus has Power in it. When we use His name we use the power associated with it. "These are the miraculous signs that will accompany believers: They will use the power and authority of my name to force demons out of people. They will speak new languages. They will pick up snakes, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick and cure them." Today we 1) speak new languages. 2) Some have the gift of healing and lay hands on the sick and they do recover. 3) There are devils being cast out of people today. 4) I havn't heard of snakes being picked up but I have heard a lot of other miraculous things that have happened. Jesus said "Mar 16:17 "These are some of the signs that will accompany believers". He didn't say apostles, He said believers. I am a believer. You are a believer. These miraculous signs follow us as well if we choose. This is a promise from Him to us. prayon |
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2 | prayon, Infilling happen at salvation? | 1 Cor 12:11 | Searcher56 | 111778 | ||
Scripture ... John 20:22; Acts 2:4 4:8, 31, 9:17, 13:9, 13:52; Eph 5:18 ... Acts 2:4 ... does being "filled with the Holy Spirit" mean it was the first time they received the Holy Spirit? - John 20:22 shows they had received the Holy Spirit. - Acts 4:8, 31, 9:17, 13:9, 13:52; Eph 5:18 While Acts 13:52 says "continually filled" I believe the Greek tense indicates there is need for us to get filled with Him. Also read Luke 1:15, 41, 67 |
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3 | prayon, Infilling happen at salvation? | 1 Cor 12:11 | prayon | 111823 | ||
Searcher: John 20:22: Albert Barnes Notes on the Bible ". In this case the act of breathing was used to represent the nature of the influence that would come upon them, and the source of that influence" John Gills Expo on the Bible: "but this breathing on them, and the words that attended it, were a symbol, pledge, and confirmation, of what they were to receive on the day of Pentecost". 4:8: Peter had been present in the upper room and received the Holy Spirit there on the day of Pentecost. 4:31 - Gills: and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost; with the gifts of the Holy Ghost, even with extraordinary ones, such as speaking with divers tongues, as before on the day of Pentecost; see Act_2:4 and this was the case not only of the apostles, but of the other ministers of the word, and it may be of the whole church: John Wesley's explanatory notes: Act 4:31 - They were all filled - Afresh; and spake the word with boldness - So their petition was granted. 9:17 - Paul received the Holy Spirit when Ananias laid hands on him. 13:9 - Principle of first context - look at the scriptures before and after. This just states that he was filled not that he had just gotten filled. 13:52 - ? The Holy Spirit was still with them. your question? Eph 5:18 - True communion with God is not induced by drunkeness, but by the Holy Spirit. Paul is teaching that we should always be under the influence of the Holy Spirit by letting the Word control our lives rather than alochol. CONTINUALLY, adv. 1. Without pause or cessation; unceasingly; as, the ocean is continually rolling its waves on the shore. (Webster's Dictionary) The verses you are referring to in Luke were still OT. Receiving the Holy Ghost under the Old Covenant differs from receiving the Holy Ghost under the New Covenant. Acts 2:4 - refer to previous answer prayon |
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4 | prayon, Infilling happen at salvation? | 1 Cor 12:11 | Searcher56 | 111828 | ||
Barnes and Gills need to read the Greek - receieve is not in the future tense, as "will accompany" in Mark 16:17. My point on being filled with the Spirit is for Christians only and is not the same as (word) for being baptized. |
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5 | prayon, Infilling happen at salvation? | 1 Cor 12:11 | prayon | 111845 | ||
Searcher shall follow 3877 KJV for will accompany From G3844 and G190; to follow near, that is, (figuratively) attend (as a result), trace out, conform to: - attain, follow, fully know, have understanding. Since Jesus tells us tells us in John 16:13 When the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into the full truth. He won't speak on his own. He will speak what he hears and will tell you about things to come. This shows that He (the Spirit) was not here yet so receive has to be in the future tense. That is what I said - being baptized with the Spirit is for Christians only and not the same as being baptized in water. prayon |
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6 | Were the 120 orphans before Penecost? | 1 Cor 12:11 | Searcher56 | 111854 | ||
I can line up experts to show "receive" in John 20:22 means they received the Holy Spirit at that time. Would you like the list? In fact, the word receive is lambano (Strong's 2983) and could be translated take. If it was the future, it would have been translated "you will receive". I am not sure when the other 109 received the Holy Spirit ... but, it had to be before Penecost. They all would have been orphans between His acsencion and Penecost. |
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7 | Were the 120 orphans before Penecost? | 1 Cor 12:11 | prayon | 111880 | ||
Then who is the Spirit to come in John 16:13? ("When the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into the full truth. He won't speak on his own. He will speak what he hears and will tell you about things to come.") Why when Jesus was talking to the apostles did He say in a few days that you will be baptized if they were already baptized as you claim? (Act 1:5 John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Act 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes to you.) If they already had the Holy Spirit then Jesus did not know what He was talking about when He told them they would be baptized in a few days. prayon |
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8 | Were the 120 orphans before Penecost? | 1 Cor 12:11 | Searcher56 | 111966 | ||
Please answer my question, first ... Were the 120 orphans before Penecost? ... then, I will answer yours - He promised "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you." John 14:18 - He wasn't with them for the days He died and was in the grave (Luke 23:46-24:16) - Jesus had gone to heaven (Luke 24:50, Acts 1:9-11) |
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