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1 | Ques. re the Carnal Christian Teaching | Rom 7:14 | Radioman2 | 92057 | ||
Other than checking both pages (the article itself?) for "these other scriptures," did you actually read the text of the article to find out what he was saying? What about his many other points? Does the omission of "these other scriptures" invalidate all his other points, too? |
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2 | Ques. re the Carnal Christian Teaching | Rom 7:14 | Pastor Glenn | 92062 | ||
Look closely at these scriptures: Heb 5 12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. 1 Peter 2 1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking, 2as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,[1] 3if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious. He built his entire article on the idea of "carnal Christians" is a false teaching. In addition to Heb 5 and 1 Pet 2, Jesus teaches Peter to feed His "sheep", as well as, His "lambs": John 21 15 So when they had eaten breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of Jonah,[2] do you love Me more than these?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Feed My lambs." 16He said to him again a second time, "Simon, son of Jonah,[3] do you love Me?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Tend My sheep." 17He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of Jonah,[4] do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, "Do you love Me?" And he said to Him, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You." Jesus said to him, "Feed My sheep. Notice: verse 15 "Feed My lambs." verse 16 "Tend My sheep." verse 17 "Feed My sheep. " Does'nt this indicate "babes" (lambs) and "spiritual" (sheep) also? You ask: "Does the omission of "these other scriptures" invalidate all his other points, too?" No, but it appears that he should have found another statement other than the alleged false teaching of "carnal Christians" or "babes" to build the points of his argument on. Because otherwise why would there be scriptures pertaining to spiritual growth? |
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3 | Ques. re the Carnal Christian Teaching | Rom 7:14 | Radioman2 | 92063 | ||
Other than checking both pages (the article itself?) for "these other scriptures," did you actually read the text of the article to find out what he was saying? |
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4 | Ques. re the Carnal Christian Teaching | Rom 7:14 | Pastor Glenn | 92067 | ||
No, I had not read the text of the article. I only skimmed through it. So here is some of what it says: "Consequently, if it can be established that the preponderance of Scripture teaches only two classes or categories of men--regenerate and unregenerate, converted and unconverted, those in Christ and those outside of Christ--the non-lordship position will be shown to be untenable. Before I turn to some of the errors and dangers of the "'Carnal Christian" teaching it may be wise to indicate what I am not saying. In this study of the "Carnal Christian" theory I am not overlooking the teaching of the Bible about sin in Christians, about babes in Christ, about growth in grace, about Christians who backslide grievously, and about the divine chastisement which Christians receive. I acknowledge that there are babes in Christ. In fact there are not only babes in Christ, but there are different stages of "babyhood" in understanding divine truth and in spiritual growth. I also recognize that there is a sense in which Christians may be said to be carnal, but I must add that there are different degrees of carnality. Every Christian is carnal in some area of his life at many times in his life--"the flesh lusteth against the Spirit" (Gal. 5:17). All the marks of Christianity are not equally apparent in all Christians. Nor are any of these marks manifest to the same degree in every period of any Christian's life. Love, faith, obedience, and devotion will vary in the same Christian in different periods of his Christian experience; in other words, there are many degrees of sanctification. The Christian's progress in growth is not constant and undisturbed. There are many hills and valleys in the process of sanctification; and there are many stumblings, falls and crooked steps in the pathway to the Celestial City. There are examples in the Bible of grievous falls and carnality in the lives of true believers. Thus we have the warnings of temporal judgment and of chastisement by our heavenly Father. These truths are all acknowledged and are not the point of this present study. The question we have to consider is: Does the Bible divide Christians into two categories? This is the issue at the heart of the "Carnal Christian" teaching. " So he mention different stages of "babyhood". Is he contradicting himself? I still say that he would have done a better job by including and analyzing the other scriptures that deal with babes, milk, lambs, and sheep. |
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