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1 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | John Reformed | 75220 | ||
Dear disciplerami, Rom 5:19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many WERE MADE sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will BE MADE righteous. The greek word for were made is kathistêmi: appointed. John |
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2 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75291 | ||
Hence the fatalism of Calvinism. If this interpretation were true, there would be no such thing as a human demonstation of agape love, faith, hope. We would be mere puppets of God, manipulated to appear loving, faithful, hopeful. And the Gospel would not be powerful, it would be powerless words. YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT YOU ARE MADE TO SIN, AND YOU ARE MADE TO LOVE GOD? MAN, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THAT OUR GOD WOULD BE PLEASED WITH SUCH A THING. I love my Creator and His Son and the Holy Spirit because they first loved me. It is the love of Christ, demonstrated at Calvary, that controls me. He doesn't MAKE me do it, I choose to. Good day. |
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3 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | John Reformed | 75317 | ||
Dear disciplerami, "Hence the fatalism of Calvinism." If this interpretation were true, there would be no such thing as a human demonstation of agape love, faith, hope. We would be mere puppets of God, manipulated to appear loving, faithful, hopeful. And the Gospel would not be powerful, it would be powerless words." Friend, I merely pointed out that the meaning of "has made" is "appointed". I would have hoped that ,rather than casting aspertions on my theology, you address the meaning text itself. It really does not matter what we think the verse should say. What the actual meaning of the passage is should be our mutual concern. As to the charge of calvinism being "fatalism", I disagree. But that is neither here nor there, and is irrelavent to topic in view. I suggest we set aside our theological traditions and approach the Scriptire with fresh eyes (as if reading them for the first time). I realize that this is not possible unless the Spirit of God grant us this perspective. Therefore, I suggest we pray for one another. I don't want our communications to be used by the enemy to foster division between us. Given the context, Rom 5:19 "For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous." seems to be an explanation of the preceeding verse: "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." Do you agree? John Reformed |
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4 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75372 | ||
John, You are reading the same verse I read but you spin the verse and do not accurately interpret it. "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." The question is HOW do the acts of Adam and Jesus result in condemnation or justification? I propose that the same way that Jesus' action results in justification, that Adam's results in condemnation. All men are not made right through the work of Jesus Christ unless they 'follow' Him. Jesus paved the way, the author and perfector or the faith, and it is each man's responsibility to take hold of the gift. The righteousness of Christ is not received without repentance and confession. Likewise, Adam's act is not automatically transferred to all men unless or until all men do what Adam did. You are IGNORING Romans 5:12, "And death spread to all men, because all sinned"!!! Now that is book, chapter, and verse. Paul tells how Adam's act leads to the condemnation of all. Good day. |
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5 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | John Reformed | 75411 | ||
Your question is " HOW do the acts of Adam and Jesus result in condemnation or justification?" Rom 5:17 For if by the transgression of the one (ADAM), death reigned through the one (ADAM), much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the GIFT of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ 18 SO THEN as through one ( transgression (EATING FORBIDDEN FRUIT) there resulted condemnation to ALL men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to ALL men (ALL MEN WHO RECIECE GRACE AND THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS SEE V.17) . 19 For as through the one man's disobedience (ADAM) the many were made (APPOINTED) sinners, even so through the obedience of the One (JESUS) the many (THOSE WHO RECIEVE THE GIFT) will be made (APPOINTED) righteous. Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man (ADAM) sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- Verse 12 clearly attributes the fact that sin is present because Adam fell. Adam is the federal head of all who are born into this world and were all present "in Adam" from the beginning. Mankind is "the seed of Adam". The Bible teaches that unclean things cannot produce clean things nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. When Adam fell, we all fell. I know that this ancient concept is not popular in our democratic culture, but it was easily understood by those who lived under kings. The only rights that people had were those freely given to them by their king. God Almighty is the King over all that He has made, including mankind. He has mercy on whom he will and He hardens whom he will. Like it or not, we as created beings have no room to complain against He who has made us. The good news is that anyone who believes will be saved, not on any merit of their own but in the basis of their position "in Christ". If you are "in Christ" you have peace with God. If you are "in Adam" you do not but the wrath of God abides upon you. Gotta Go. Peace, John |
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6 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75445 | ||
"Verse 12 clearly attributes the fact that sin is present because Adam fell. Adam is the federal head of all who are born into this world and were all present "in Adam" from the beginning. Mankind is "the seed of Adam". The Bible teaches that unclean things cannot produce clean things nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. When Adam fell, we all fell." What about Mary, did she produce a clean child? Just curious. Hereditary sin does not come unless we act like Adam. Adam sinned even though he was NOT depraved. We too, choose to sin even though we are not depraved. Once we sin, then we are depraved. This is not too hard to understand. |
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7 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | John Reformed | 75456 | ||
"What about Mary, did she produce a clean child?" The sin of Adam is passed down through the head of the family, the husband. Bear in mind we are not dealing with the physical but the spiritual when speaking of sin. " Once we sin, then we are depraved. This is not too hard to understand." Really? Then a clean thing can bring forth that which is unclean and good fig tree can produce bad fruit. John |
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8 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | Mommapbs | 75459 | ||
John: This is a portion of my post to disciplerami - I thought you might consider this: I believe that hereditary sin originated with Adam and will continue to be transmitted until the last individual in God's Book is born. In the case of Mary, a possibility to consider is that the sin-tainted genome is always passed from the male (Adam) and therefore the genetic material passed to Christ from Mary was without the Adamic taint. However, I can not agree with those who assert that Mary was also without sin for Mary was the product of a human union, and thus she possessed the sin-nature that was tranmitted from her father at the very least! All of this is indeed speculation, but it is based upon what we know about the prinicples of heredity. mommapbs PS: another thought to think about. . . perhaps because we possess tainted and untainted genomes, we have the ability to recognize our sin nature! |
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9 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | John Reformed | 75461 | ||
Thanks mommapbs, It' nice to hear from you! I really don't think that biology is involved. When speaking of the nature of man we speak of his spiritual nature. Gen 2:17 "but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die." EPH 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins. I believe the Bible is clearly describing spiritual death, which is manifests itself as a "heart of stone". The ability to desire spiritual good is gone (see Romans 1 and 2) and the natural man also loses his ability to recieve or even understand spiritual things (1 Cor 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised). It was for this reason Jesus told Nicodemus in John chapter 3 that one must be born again before he can even SEE the kingdom of God. John Reformed |
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10 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | Mommapbs | 75477 | ||
Hi John Reformed! My use of genetics is just a feeble attempt for ME to understand how the sin nature is transmitted. Since we are triune beings, we cannot separate our spiritual nature from our physical and intellectual natures. The whole ball of wax is part of the reproductive process. I believe God's Word which declares that ALL have sinned. Since apart from God not ONE is righteous, the sin nature of Adam MUST be inherited as well. Yes, we are dead in our sin (nature) until God declares us righteous. I look forward to talking to Him about all this when I see Him! Blessings in Jesus! mommapbs |
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