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1 | Salvation by compulsion-Romans 5 | Rom 5:1 | formereverything | 121856 | ||
I referred to the NRSV of the Bible but here is the amplified: Even here note the terms reigned, unmerited,putting them, made acceptable, superabounded. "17For if because of one man's trespass (lapse, offense) death reigned through that one, much more surely will those who receive [God's] overflowing grace (unmerited favor) and the free gift of righteousness [putting them into right standing with Himself] reign as kings in life through the one Man Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One). 18Well then, as one man's trespass [one man's false step and falling away led] to condemnation for all men, so one Man's act of righteousness [leads] to acquittal and right standing with God and life for all men. 19For just as by one man's disobedience (failing to hear, [1] heedlessness, and carelessness) the many were constituted sinners, so by one Man's obedience the many will be constituted righteous (made acceptable to God, brought into right standing with Him). 20But then Law came in, [only] to expand and increase the trespass [making it more apparent and exciting opposition]. But where sin increased and abounded, grace (God's unmerited favor) has surpassed it and increased the more and superabounded, 21So that, [just] as sin has reigned in death, [so] grace (His unearned and undeserved favor) might reign also through righteousness (right standing with God) which issues in eternal life through Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One) our Lord." - Amplified Bible My point is that I am trying to understand why paul felt the need to use such forceful language when discussing grace. Even the author of the message sees the agression in these verses: "18Here it is in a nutshell: Just as one person did it wrong and got us in all this trouble with sin and death, another person did it right and got us out of it. But more than just getting us out of trouble, he got us into life! 19One man said no to God and put many people in the wrong; one man said yes to God and put many in the right. 20All that passing laws against sin did was produce more lawbreakers. But sin didn't, and doesn't, have a chance in competition with the aggressive forgiveness we call grace. When it's sin versus grace, grace wins hands down."- The Message It seems that in my reveiew of many translations, that the general understanding is, that apart from us, salvation is general or universal in one aspect. That being that everyone will be ressurected whether they like it or not.Because eternal life is a direct result of grace and not of personal merit. Eternal Life doesn't imply Heaven, but rather Immortality. P.S. Hank don't get so emotional. |
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2 | Salvation by compulsion-Romans 5 | Rom 5:1 | Hank | 121862 | ||
formereverything: __"P.S. Hank, don't get so emotional."__ ..... It is not my practice to base theological statements or conclusions upon emotion but on Scripture, as I did my best to do in the post that spurred you to add an advisory P.S. How, therefore, are you able to infer that my answer to your question was a product of my emotion? ...... Scripture never teaches, as you seem to imply, that salvation is general or universal. Frankly, if my first answer does not answer your question clearly and to your personal satisfaction, I have no inclination, based on the conviction that it would be of no consequence, to argue the point with you further. I'm curious, did you carelly read and study the first 10 chapters of Romans as I recommended before you responded to my answer? If you did, I commend you on being a far swifter reader and student than anyone I know. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Salvation by compulsion-Romans 5 | Rom 5:1 | formereverything | 121898 | ||
perhaps I should have stated that you come across harsh in your postings rather than attempt to label you. I apologize for this. I must be truthful though, having read many of your responses, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wishes there was an ignore button on this forum | ||||||