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1 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189535 | ||
AO, It is an interesting doctrine indeed and when scripture is so clear on the matter I struggle to understand why some still push salvation by works. Perhaps a good study on the grace of God and the corrupted nature of mankind would help. I would like to ask regarding your statement " It is an interesting doctrine that people are called on to believe and confess God; both actions requiring human effort; yet water baptism is beyond the pale!" Considering scripture such as these 1 Corinthians 2:14 (NASB) But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. And Romans 8:5-8 (NASB) 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. What human effort can we claim? Can believers claim it is by their effort that they have believed and confessed Christ as Lord? 1 Corinthians 12:3 (NASB) Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. It is an interesting doctrine to me that mankind still believes he saves himself and that he is capable of such great works! Especially in light of scripture and simply taking a look around the world at the fruit of sinful mans labors! Ephesians 2:4-9 (NASB) 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 2:6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Steve |
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2 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | jlhetrick | 189606 | ||
Steve, I just want to say that yes, this topic has been discussed (and debated) much (too much) on this forum. However, I don't believe I have seen it articulated so excellently as you have done here. We are fortunate to have brothers like you in the Christian family to help point out to others when they are in error in their interpretation of Scritpture. Thank you for not interpreting; but simply presenting the word of God. Scripture truly does not allow for the interpretation that many give it so liberally regarding this topic. Like you, I just don't comprehend how this happens short of attributing it to the lack of personal study on the part of many. I'm not being critical of Aspiring Overseer as it is clear from his post that many of these commonly held beliefs are simply the mistakes in interpretation that have been passed on for generations now in the church. Your sincere approach in allowing Scripture to establish doctrine while safeguarding against allowing thought, opinion, and commonly taught fallacies to do so is obvious and appreciated. Jeff |
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3 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189621 | ||
Jeff, Thank you for the kind words brother! Steve |
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