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1 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 95659 | ||
Graceful Then your saying we should allow Islamics, Mormons, Jehovah Witness, Buddhist, Hindu's and anyone else post their doctrine on the forum, twisting scripture to prove they are right. If your posting are scriptural and in agreement with orthodox Christianity they will not be challenged. However if they are calling Christ a Worm, telling someone that God has to do as they desire, or that Christ had to do something other than what he did on the cross for our salvation I hope everyone challenges it. I'm not asking you to do anything, all I and the others have done is held WOF teaching to the light of the truth. If once it is held in the light and it is found to be a falsehood, we then proclaimed it as such. You compare me to Saul are you saying WOF is truth and that orthodox Christianity is false? Saul rejected the truth Christ revealed. Therefore you must be inferring I'm rejecting the truth of WOF that your revealing while clutching to the falsehood of orthodox Christianity. Then you talk about my need for humility. EdB |
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2 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | gracefull | 95746 | ||
I am saying that you have done the very thing you accuse others of, and not just me...allowing your opinions to dictate the forum discussions rather than allowing scripture and the Holy Spirit to minister. If a Muslam or Islam comes on the forum...welcome them to hear scripture. Rebuttal their discussions with scripture and God's love..not ridicule and personal attacks. They need to see the difference in their god and our God, not just another dictator god that rejects them. Purhaps you have forgotten God saved you in you when you were still IN YOUR SIN by revealing His great love and mercy. And purhaps you have forgotten that YE, my brother, there are things you are abslutely wrong about. I do not know this based on my beliefs...but based on the mere fact that YOU ARE STILL HUMAN. The forum would benefit greatly from the oportunity to stretch and grow into ministry rather than rejecting all who do not fit YOUR INTERPRETATIONS. DEAD SEA Secondly:"You compare me to Saul are you saying WOF is truth and that orthodox Christianity is false? Saul rejected the truth Christ revealed. Therefore you must be inferring I'm rejecting the truth of WOF that your revealing while clutching to the falsehood of orthodox Christianity." You are persecuting as the Pharasees did any who do not fit your 'Orthodox Theology'..Jesus did not fit the 'Orthodox Theology' and was rejected also. I am not saying 'Orthodox Theology' is all wrong..but this term should not be used on the forum as a WALL against scriptural discussions because it is man's interpretation of scripture and not scripture. It should not be the 'end of the matter' as you have stated often in our discussions. Yes, you project yourself as a Pharasee of the forum...policing all 'unorthodox' posts rather than promoting real unity by encouraging all forum members to participate in discussions that promote the exploration of scriptural TRUTH. Instead, you decided to WARN them not to participate but to reject thus you made yourself the one who decides what is right and wrong for discussion rather than the Holy Sprit of God. As for the discussion of Jesus calling Himself a worm on the cross...He was doing exactly what I did when I went to an alter of repentance...He recognized He had become sin for mankind. As has been pointed out now that Martin Luther and Spurgeon both understood this...these were VERY ORTHODOX men of theology...And yet you still allow your bitterness to dictate the rules of the forum hindering truth sekers with YOUR choice of 'Orthodox Theology'. Don't ask me any more questions. I have given my leave of absense in order to allow the forum to return peacefully to it's closed world rather than a place of real truth seeking and ministry. God bless |
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3 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 95763 | ||
Graceful Since this forum is non moderated and is a Bible Study forum the originators decided this forum should could not become an apologetics forum where everyone was free to argue their various religions but instead to be a Bible Study forum, the Bible is studied from an orthodox Christian view point. Therefore the Originators of the forum set forth and stated standards that posters to this forum should adhere to. This forum can successfully be used to help new Christians find their way but holds little value as a means to convert a cultist or other religionist back to true Christianity. Also since there isn’t a moderator nor anyway to summarize a post young Christians are left on their own to sort through the forum gleaning bits of truth. Therefore little bits of false doctrine that seem right are in fact very dangerous. You have a way of interjecting just the slightest bit of error into many of your posts. I'm not sure if that is intentional or just years of WOF indoctrination but in any case once it is pointed out you refuse to accept it as error and usually within a short period of time you are posting it again. You have by posting error intentionally have violated the forums stated guidelines many times. Take the worm issue. The issue is over someone, in a course of teaching or preaching describing Jesus Christ as a WORM. That very act is insulting and degrading of our LORD. I believe it was stated that way intentionally since WOF tries to blur the separation between deity and man. The underlining thrust of Word of Faith teaching is that through faith man can become as God. By planting the innocuous appearing seed of suggesting Christ was a worm they are really degrading God in an attempt to make the step between God and man a little shorter. While the Psalmist in Psalm 22 did metaphorically portray himself as feeling so low that he thought of himself as a worm. However it is a long way from expressing oneself as feeling as a worm, to calling someone a worm. I and others have shown you repeatedly that is not acceptable, no creature should ever call our Lord a worm. You then tried to imply Spurgeon and Luther did, which is patently false they never did. In fact the little we know about these men I think it safe to say both would rather had been branded a heretic than to have called Jesus a WORM. Both these men in their commentary explained that Christ metaphorically thought of Himself a worm and never ever hinted, suggested or implied we, His servants, should be calling our Lord and Savior a WORM. Yet you argue on. You say because I correct these inaccurate statements you give I’m being Pharisaical. I disagree for me to let them “lie stand”, would make me a part of the lie and by pointing it out I’m telling others you have twisted what scripture has said, what Spurgeon has said and what Luther has said. To make matters worst you imply I’m trying to censor or stifle what Luther and Spurgeon said. That is a lie, a cheap attempt to make me look bad, and is so wrong. I have always held Luther and Spurgeon up as men that from whom we all can learn from. What I did was correct what you tried to justify by using their teaching. You twisted the words of these great men in a feeble attempt to defend your insulting and false teaching. Graceful you make it seem as if nothing is so low that you won’t stoop to use it to deflect the eyes of the forum, in an attempt to keep them from focusing on the error of Word of Faith doctrine you post. That may appear to be an awful thing to say about another, and I’m sorry to say it, but after the last few days that is the impression you are giving. EdB |
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4 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | Radioman2 | 95784 | ||
Who gets spiritually weird? EdB: Speaking of the word of fake movement, have you ever wondered: What kind of people get spiritually weird? I think you will enjoy the following. Grace to you, Radioman2 ___________________ 'It seems like every couple of years a new fad comes down the pike promising a, deeper richer, fuller, Christian life. If you've been around for a while you know what I mean. In my twenty years as a Christian we've had Power in praise; the "second blessing" as key to the powerful Christian life; . . . heavy-handed submission to church leadership; binding, loosing and rebuking of demons, NAME IT AND CLAIM IT, the School of the Prophets, hearing the voice of God, power evangelism. These are all fads, ladies and gentlemen, evangelical joy-toys. They each may emphasize something that has biblical merit, but they do so in an unbalanced way, and each fails utterly as a panacea, as the one particular and principle thing that makes your Christian life "work." 'It is uniquely American to want an easy way out, especially a way out that is not painful and requires no work. That American value has crept into our American Christianity. So we have these seminars to get it all taken care of in a weekend. Want mental health? Get hands laid on you and you'll have mental health overnight. Want spirituality? Have a vision, get the baptism, . . . Want your problems to disappear? Simply praise the Lord. Want to be rid of temptation and sin? Have the demon cast out. Want to be done with the aggravation of decision making? Let God speak to you. 'Instead of being devoted to developing spiritual maturity and attaining Scriptural knowledge, we want the quick fix. Instead of developing mastery, we want magic. Instead of learning our lessons, we want the master sitting next to us during the tests of life whispering His answers into our ears. We anticipate an A in the exam of life not because we know the material, not because we've mastered the content and it's become a part of us, but because we've cheated. 'You will notice, by the way, that these extreme things do not stay around long, and that the effects of these fads fade over time. That's why the church as a whole has to move on to its next fast-fix.' ____________________ "How to Keep from Getting Spiritually Weird" by Gregory Koukl. This is a transcript of a commentary from the radio show "Stand to Reason," with Gregory Koukl. (Emphasis added.) For more information, contact Stand to Reason at (www.str.org) |
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5 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 95791 | ||
Radioman2 Good article, doesn't it just break your heart to know this is true? The whole focus of most religion in America is what is in it for me with little or no consideration for what God wants. We have become so self centered, self focused we want to run things our way and let God conform to our standards instead of conforming to His. Yes new fads come and go they have all through the centuries. As Solomon so wisely said, there is nothing new under the sun. Thanks again for the article EdB |
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